Shootout Sunday - KOT vs Broadcast/EP vs Accountant/El Cap vs Timeline/ FX8 & AX8 vs The Lot !

Jonathanthomas83

WarpedSounds said:

Jonathanthomas83 said:

100% agree with the El Cap being a keeper over the TL. As much as I loved the Timeline, I inevitably had to let it go.

I kept both - and haven't had any delay GAS since. 

That's a good compromise! ;-)

John_P

Warren - when you compare the timeline and el cap - have you triedFTT Flight time?     

I'm tempted to make a more trad board and debating between a providence chrono and el cap pair vs a timeline  vs a flight time. 

Jonathanthomas83

When considering the FTT, worth considering a second hand Nova Delay, honestly. Great pedal.

John_P

Jonathanthomas83 said:

When considering the FTT, worth considering a second hand Nova Delay, honestly. Great pedal.

It's the midi on the flight time and timeline that put them on the list,   The nova is a great pedal but switching between presets is a bit awkward imo.

Jonathanthomas83

@John_P I agree with that mate.

Wazmeister

I still think the Flight Time is one of the best 'clean' delays I've tried; superior, imho, to the Chrono.

I simply struggled with the lack of knobs; it was a pain to dial in, esp on the fly... I think switching between presets involved a clumsy 2 switch press - if I remember correctly (?)

Jonathanthomas83

Exactly why I couldn't get on with it. Found the Nova easier to dial in. But yes, the Flight Time was cleaner sounding, indeed. 

John_P

Wazmeister said:

I still think the Flight Time is one of the best 'clean' delays I've tried; superior, imho, to the Chrono.

I simply struggled with the lack of knobs; it was a pain to dial in, esp on the fly... I think switching between presets involved a clumsy 2 switch press - if I remember correctly (?)

Yes thats right but I would use a loop switcher and change presets via midi but I can see the TL gives quicker direct access.

wellsyboy

Fulltone SSTE tape delay and EP all in one (slightly larger footprint than the EP though!)

Teetonetal

John_P said:

Wazmeister said:

I still think the Flight Time is one of the best 'clean' delays I've tried; superior, imho, to the Chrono.

I simply struggled with the lack of knobs; it was a pain to dial in, esp on the fly... I think switching between presets involved a clumsy 2 switch press - if I remember correctly (?)

Yes thats right but I would use a loop switcher and change presets via midi but I can see the TL gives quicker direct access.

Flight time no better than the vintage mode on the Boss dd500 imo, I spent a lot of time comparing them as that's a crucial sound for me and the Boss just sounds epic. 

meltedbuzzbox

Teetonetal said:

John_P said:

Wazmeister said:

I still think the Flight Time is one of the best 'clean' delays I've tried; superior, imho, to the Chrono.

I simply struggled with the lack of knobs; it was a pain to dial in, esp on the fly... I think switching between presets involved a clumsy 2 switch press - if I remember correctly (?)

Yes thats right but I would use a loop switcher and change presets via midi but I can see the TL gives quicker direct access.

Flight time no better than the vintage mode on the Boss dd500 imo, I spent a lot of time comparing them as that's a crucial sound for me and the Boss just sounds epic. 

I am curious about the boss but I think I have just had enough of the delay merry go round. At £200 ish it's not a lot

Teetonetal

meltedbuzzbox said:

Teetonetal said:

John_P said:

Wazmeister said:

I still think the Flight Time is one of the best 'clean' delays I've tried; superior, imho, to the Chrono.

I simply struggled with the lack of knobs; it was a pain to dial in, esp on the fly... I think switching between presets involved a clumsy 2 switch press - if I remember correctly (?)

Yes thats right but I would use a loop switcher and change presets via midi but I can see the TL gives quicker direct access.

Flight time no better than the vintage mode on the Boss dd500 imo, I spent a lot of time comparing them as that's a crucial sound for me and the Boss just sounds epic. 

I am curious about the boss but I think I have just had enough of the delay merry go round. At £200 ish it's not a lot

Yup, best off out of it. I love the boss, but still look at the Nemesis with envious eyes. It's ridiculous.

meltedbuzzbox

I've gone h9 and not really thought about it at all. 
In fact I have halved the size of my pedal board 

Wazmeister

I must agree with @Teetonetal the Boss DD500 remains one if the best delays I've tried...

the he presets are not great but by adjusting the parameters I'd got to the point where I could copy any delay sound

Mike77

So what about the ax8 and fx8 vs the lot? How did they do?

kjdowd

Mike77 said:

So what about the ax8 and fx8 vs the lot? How did they do?

Personally I think the delays (and reverbs and mods) on the fx8 and ax8 stack up against any pedal I've ever tried, including the el cap and the timeline, bigsky etc. Some of those pedals might do slightly different things that aren't quite on the ax8 (cloud reverb on the bigsky for example) but the ax8 can usually get very close (shimmer is a good example - no dedicated mode as such but easy to recreate).  

Mike77

Thanks for the breakdown. Really interested in those units. Particularly using the fx8 with an amp. If it had loops for those few must have pedals, I'd be 100% sold.

BintyTwanger77

meltedbuzzbox said:

I've gone h9 and not really thought about it at all. 
In fact I have halved the size of my pedal board 

What does your board look like just now?

pmg

Wazmeister said:

@John_P - Im not sure mate, as I wasn't on the list. Ive only ever seen 2, and Ive owned both of them ! This has the high gain on the red side...

Or you've owned the same one twice...

Gassage

I would totally concur re the FTTFT and Chrono and I also agree that the FTTFT is a mare to set up.

TL- sorry, I still don't get them.