Binson Echorec - by t rex

mixolyd

Hopefully being a disc there's no room for them to go the way they did with the Replicator and its thin tape.

Loobs

So, the consensus is that the Replicator isn't all that? 

Teetonetal

@Loobs TPS just did a video with it.. 

Loobs

Watched that. Sounds ok...

Teetonetal

Loobs said:

Watched that. Sounds ok...

Yeah - it doesn't seem to great great user reviews though - on balance I think I'm looking for a 201 or maybe wait until they release the echorec...

Loobs

I'm also thinking about buying a 201. A friend has one and it sounds awesome. 

Strat_a_tat_tat

With regard to negative comments about the T Rex Replicator (on various forums etc), I'm not sure how much of that is down to user error. Any tape echo is going to be a bit more fiddly to set up compared with a normal pedal. In the 50s and 60s, guitarists knew they had to make a few adjustments to get the mechanical stuff working at its best... but kids raised on digital pedals are unlikely to realise these devices aren't plug & play.

Loobs

I think the comments were that it didn't sound all that compared to other tape echoes. Why exactly is it fiddly to set up? 

Teetonetal

Strat_a_tat_tat said:

With regard to negative comments about the T Rex Replicator (on various forums etc), I'm not sure how much of that is down to user error. Any tape echo is going to be a bit more fiddly to set up compared with a normal pedal. In the 50s and 60s, guitarists knew they had to make a few adjustments to get the mechanical stuff working at its best... but kids raised on digital pedals are unlikely to realise these devices aren't plug & play.

Given how expensive this is - I think it's highly unlikely that these are being bought by kids... The issue seems to have been the cartridge and tape wear. T-rex have released a new improved cartridge that is supposed to solve some of the problems. The sort of consensus seems to be that t-rex went to market too quickly and they hadn't quite got the replicator right.

http://www.t-rex-effects.com/tape-cartridge/

Strat_a_tat_tat

Teetonetal said:

Strat_a_tat_tat said:

With regard to negative comments about the T Rex Replicator (on various forums etc), I'm not sure how much of that is down to user error. Any tape echo is going to be a bit more fiddly to set up compared with a normal pedal. In the 50s and 60s, guitarists knew they had to make a few adjustments to get the mechanical stuff working at its best... but kids raised on digital pedals are unlikely to realise these devices aren't plug & play.

Given how expensive this is - I think it's highly unlikely that these are being bought by kids... The issue seems to have been the cartridge and tape wear. T-rex have released a new improved cartridge that is supposed to solve some of the problems. The sort of consensus seems to be that t-rex went to market too quickly and they hadn't quite got the replicator right.

http://www.t-rex-effects.com/tape-cartridge/

Well.... when I say kids.... I mean anyone under 40.

Did T Rex give new, replacement tape cartridges to customers that had bought Replicators?

Teetonetal

No idea. 

Wazmeister

Teetonetal said:

@Loobs TPS just did a video with it.. 

I played one at Hotrox, and it was actually very good indeed. Really good fun, and a wide variety of sounds.

It was VERY noisy though; not through the amp, but the actual tape itself. 

I'd still get one at the right money...