Phillip Seymour Hoffman RIP

bertie

8 empty bags of heroin and a needle in his arm..........or choking on an olive........... hmmm let me think

Col_Decker

Drew_fx said:

Would it be any more socially acceptable for you if he had a cigarette in his mouth, or a box of chocolates in his ass?

nothing to do with being socially acceptable, its about being a fucking great twat when you're fortunate enough have a wife and young kids

So.... if he'd choked to death on an olive in his bath tub, would you be a little more sympathetic to him?

yes that would have been a tragic accident. This was sticking a needle in your arm to get fix when you've got a 3 young kids who depend on you. Selfish and avoidable.

holnrew

Addiction is fucking complicated. As is suicide (has that been ruled out?)

Drew_TNBD

holnrew said:

Addiction is fucking complicated. As is suicide (has that been ruled out?)

Exactly.

Col_Decker

Drew_fx said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortured_artist

cry me a river

RobDavies

Seems people are very quick to judge....

Addictions are horrible, horrible mental illnesses.   Poor sod must have been in a really bad place.

 

Sympathies to him and his family.

Drew_TNBD

Col_Decker said:

Drew_fx said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortured_artist

cry me a river

Tears mean nothing to you. You're dead inside and are sorely lacking in the humanity department.

Col_Decker

quite the opposite

Drew_TNBD

\:D/

Anyway.... to me, it's really bloody awful. As well as the ramifications for his family, the world just lost a great talent.

frankus

I don't think he or his family would want your priggish sympathies anyway.

He struggled with drugs - kicked the habit and started again after 23 years of being clean.

It sounds like he wanted to fight it as he booked into a clinic to help him.

That's no short measure of time or self-control, so what might happen that would cause someone to give up?

frankus

Drew_fx said:

You're dead inside and are sorely lacking in the humanity department.

Col_Decker said:

quite the opposite

You're sore inside and humanely lacking in the dead department?

jellyroll

Very sad loss of talent. 

I sympathise with anybody having addiction problems. It seems to me that the "pull yourself together" approach misunderstands the problem.

We are all sometimes stupid and take wrong turns. It's just that some people's wrong turn happens to be into drugs.