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Right, this is the finished version of Rise, something I've been working on for ages, the earlier version of which is above. Used Vocalise a fair bit on this too. Also mastered it with a different way, which I think has given it some more bite, though when it comes to mastering I am at the bottom of a very steep learning curve. Cheers all for listening and any feedback. J
Second chord? I'd have to check, most of it was played on the fly, lol. Well, tbh, all of it was. None of the notes have been edited post original take. I did intend it all to flow, in sync, key and timing wise, so if something's out, it wouldn't really surprise me.
I was aiming to get a counter harmony, in the second section, with the brass, something a little reminiscent of the arrangements you get in some of the 60s.
also, I was that focused on the mix, trying to avoid clutter etc, that I haven't paid any attention at all to the notes!
good feedback though, so cheers muchly
As for putting pen to paper, well if it woked for Bach, I'm sure it will work for me in my box room surrounded by crap!
Mind you, Back was all about maths, and I can't be arsed with that, I have enough maths in the day job.
Dissonances - you know, that makes sense, when you talk about layers. Musically, I was classically trained upto a reasonably high standard (piano) as a kid, so when it comes to the notes- I'm usually know what I intended, but the effect of layers of dissonance wasn;'t something I'd thought about.
One thing I need to learn to appreciate is the benefit of simplicity. the track I did called Asheklon only has 10 tracks in it, and twoe of those are a couple of FX loops. I'm happier with that track, though it could maybe do with another minute or so.
I totally got what you were saying on dissonance BTW. Agree, it can be good, but caution necessary. YOu know sometimes, I can't even hear it. LIke in the track, until you pointed it out, I missed it, and tbh, had to concentrate to hear it at first. Now i hear nothing esle, so cheers for that!!
I seem to write myself into a mess all the time! I think its not understanding what makes something sound big. That is something I am still learning. Big isn't always layers, i guess its also eq, volume, reverb, placement and dynamics.
I'm working right now on some industrial/electro stuff (think NIN around The Fragile), and I am having to rein the pads in. Thick crisp bass and taut guitar bit crushed, and good drums instead.
Theres probably a good reason why a lot of early rock music sounded so good - focus!
cheers buddy - good discussion, informative
A Winged Victory For The Sullen.
Try their first album, of the same name, for starters. SImply stunningly beautfiul modern classical music. Very simple and elegant.
On the track RIse, I jus sat down and played some strings for 4 minutes.
Big fan of Hans Zimmer, my favourite of his is the OST to Inception.
Nils Frahm and Olafur Arnulds too. The latter's OST to the TV show Broadchurch is v good.
A fella worth checking out is Loscil. All sort of ambient soundscape type stuff, but very very good. Melodic and atmospheric. A good place to start is his EP Strathcona Variations. All his albums are v good, but his two most recent are my pick, I think.
All the ones I've mentioned have been linked by the Erased Tapes label. They do periodic sampler albums, I've found some cracking artists through them.
@Clarky - listen to anything by Stars of the Lid.
Lovely music, great to work to. Only thing is , that in the car you lose some of the music through noise. The Melancholy Sounds album is good. They have recently got back together, talkin about new music and touring.
Ill check out your link too, cheers, later on, on train at moment.
J