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and the Flanger ( ElecLady clone) both sound superb.
Only issue is the switches feel a bit flimsy but I use a loop switcher anyway.
Happy days, both sub £17 delivered.
Given the use of the term Chinaman as opposed to Chinese guy I can see what you mean but the question is pretty non racist, perhaps English is not his forte.
I don't see the comments as racist but they're both definitely sexist in assuming that only Chinese people of the male gender are capable of making cheap, unreliable knock-offs.
It's a very good point you make.
Don't talk politics and don't throw stones. Your royal highnesses.
The Chinese are great at repeating someone else's success but pretty short on innovation.
Exactly, and it's not like the boutique pedals are a lot more. They might use a few boutique-y "mojo" parts- Germanium transistors or branded op-amp chips (was pricing up bits for a Zendrive clone last night and the Burr Brown chip it uses costs £3-4 from legit UK sources), but as a small-time hobbyist building one pedal at a time, not bulk-buying anything I can still knock up most of the household name boutique ODs for twenty-odd quid in parts and a few hours soldering.
If I was a chinese factory I could undoubtedly get far better prices buying thousands of jack sockets or 3PDT footswitches at a time (shit, I could save a pound per pedal just by buying unbranded jack sockets instead of Neutrik), and if I knew my shit with electronics I could almost certainly find some cost-cutting hacks to make even cheaper clones.
What the price doesn't cover is all the R&D, but considering how many boutique pedals are closely related to other existing designs (lots of modified Tubescreamers out there...) it's easy to be cynical about just how long it really takes to "design" the latest TGP flavour of the month dirt box.
Don't talk politics and don't throw stones. Your royal highnesses.
1\4 watt 1% resistors are a penny each, low value caps not a lot more.
The build cost of the stereo amp and stereo mic pre in my own product comes to less than £3 in electronic components. However building one unit per day is about all I can do as the drilling, PCB making and offboard wiring is time consuming. That's the bit the Chinese are great at ...... once they have the design they are superb at building it quicker and cheaper than we can
Not exactly, thats the interesting thing about it to me. Though the original circuits they're based from are all taken from other pedals the miniturization of them definitely started there.
So theres someone there figuring out how to cram them into increasingly smaller designs, mooer or whoever clearly have some kind of an R and D department. But then that circuit, once miniaturized gets licensed/ ripped off/ used by a whole bunch of different brands, maybe from the same factory? I'd be really interested to find out exactly how the process happens.
I've heard a lot of it is down to the chinese government, who don't give two shits about enforcing IP law since it gets in the way of building the economy.
firstly we discuss the topic, then one of us turns it ever so slightly towards some type of personal gripe, then we all pile in and have a good old rant about it.
Then either @Drew_fx or @Sambostar pop in with a few choice phrases.