We've just got a dishwasher for the first time and one of the results is that the ancient pots and pans we have had for about 10 years have shed their remaining non stick coating and are now completely useless.
From doing research it seems to be the case that if you have non stick pans and dishwash them they will be trashed after a couple of years. Various brands claim that they have super tough coatings that will survive harsh treatment, but I'm not sure if this is just marketing crap.
I don't mind paying extra for good pans, but if they are going to be scrap in a couple of years I might as well buy a cheap set of Tefal ones and budget in replacing them on a regular basis.
I should add that I definitely do want non stick and cleaning them by hand isn't an option.
Thoughts?
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We also have one large better quality pan for bigger jobs that does not go in the dishwasher.
I don't understand why you'd dishwasher pans, it takes just as long of your time, and much longer total time.
I've swapped to carbon steel , which needs seasoning but works beautifully . Hand wash only , and takes effort to maintain , but holds heat and sears well -it's almost like a lighter version of cast iron.
For non stick, a chef friend reckons you should go to tk maxx and get the cheapest you can - they'll wear out within a year or two regardless unless you're very careful . I don't like the throwaway culture .
A good alternative could be to try ceramic non stick pans . They still won't retain heat so well, but they apparently last far longer than standard Teflon kit . Le creuset do good stuff, but greenpan (? ) are more affordable and supposed to be decent .
If it's going in the dish washer, why get non stick ? My Teflon frying pan just gets a wipe with a damp cloth after use and it's ready .
Not really because buy cheap pans and chuck them every couple of years is a valid solution.
The constraint isn't mine. The Mrs wants non stick and isn't going to wash them by hand so given that she does most of the kitchen stuff it's ultimately her decision, I just need to know if buying something expensive is a waste of time which it sounds like it is.
even cheap non stick pans wash very easily.
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It's usually done before I am home from work.
The Le Creuset ones get used for anything where heavy scrubbing will not be required.
The cheap & replaceable non-stick pans get used more often and I'm militant about getting rid of them when they show signs that the coating is wearing off.
The cheap ones we get at Sainsbury- they are about £10-20 a pop.
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As a Master Dishwasherer, I can confirm that anything non-stick you put in it will be ruined. Also, be very careful of putting decent glassware in there - they can go cloudy. Still, my dishywashy was the best domestic appliance I've ever purchased. Talking of which - mine is 14 years old and I've replaced so many parts on it over the years, it's almost like Trigger's broom. I finally fixed a longstanding fault on it yesterday - turned out to be a PCB mount relay that was breaking down under load.
I remember buying it on Boxing Day - I'd done a big Christmas dinner and looked at the humongous pile of washing up to do and said "fuck that...." and went out and bought a dishywashy.
Offset "(Emp) - a little heavy on the hyperbole."
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They have a lifetime guarantee on the non stick coating and claim to be dishwashable so time will tell.