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We had low 20s really for the 4 days we were there. I liked it, but I wouldn't rush back. When we left, it was about 21 and we were driving to Monterey. As we hit the valleys, the temperature steadily climbed to mid 40s within maybe an hour's drive. We got out at Gilroy for a stop and the thermometer was reading 115. By the time we got to Big Sur it was back down to 80 ish. Bizarre rapid changes in the space of a few miles.
California is ace, but out of all the places we visited, SF was probably my least favourite. Still v good, but much preferred Santa Monica and San Diego.
So much so, we are debating a holiday next summer solely in Santa Monica, and seeing more of the surrounding area.
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They probably had too many non religious pasty gingers sat down and quarantined in secondary on that particular day and needed someone to balance it out on paper so the stats don't look bigoted. Last time I went I had quite an enjoyable long lengthy chat with an Iraqi fella and a Cuban.
On the first visit to America I was thinking this place is harsher than a mountain border patrol with AK47's pointing at you in South East Asia somewhere as the security guy dragged off some 85 year old Italian dude and his wife in a headlock. I mean dragged, he had his legs on the floor and was being dragged by his neck. Well at least he'#ll now learn not to complain and queue up like the rest of us eh. Problem is, a lot of continentals don't do queuing for endless hours at a single non US citizen security desk whilst they have another 20 empty ones that are open to US citizens.
Never been to Florida but Philadelphia is a bad one for customs. Always try and land in Newark NJ now, they are much more friendly and even have gingers on security.
Anyway for places to go.
http://www.gravedigger.com/contentpage.aspx?id=51 and it's in NC in the middle of nowhere.
http://www.davidlindley.com/cgi-bin/dltourdates.cgi
You'll have to wait for February for the Nascar.
ok, so it turns out its far more expensive than I previously thought, so we've compromised and decided on
a 10 night stay in the Luxor, Las Vegas with a few excursions.all booked for next September.
just got to find some tidy off strip bars with rock or metal
You can also do this via YYZ and other Canada airports
& Manchester airport will offer US customs soon too
The other benefit is that the flights can land at less busy, cheaper "domestic" airports
also: do not miss this trick: if you've been there in the last couple of years, and still have a valid ESTA and the same passport, you queue with the US Citizens to go through customs. I got through SF customs an hour ahead of the other Brits who didn't have a previously-used ESTA
SF is colder than you think for a lot of the year. It was quite cold in May, for example. Sunny, but cold
NY has arctic winters and tropical summers
We flew direct to LAX last year, and immigration in USA took hardly any time, no more of a chore than any other country tbh.
On Vegas, no I don't fancy it at all. Not really my thing from what I have heard, from everyone who's been there. For one, don't like hotels. I get an apartment every time, if I can (if with the family).
And I'd save both NYC and LA for their own trips.
Bellagio or The Wynn are fantastic hotels
It is completely bonkers but still entertaining, for a while. As my wife said when we were there "it's like Disneyland, but for adults...and less tasteful ".
Agree about the Bellagio, the dancing fountains are great.