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And as for MP3, I'd rather listen to a Dansette or a Radiogram. MP3 is lossy shite and nowhere hear High Fidelity. Even CD is capable of widdling all over it.
Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
it can be a pricey game but most collecting hobbies are IMO.
I’ve spent 500 quid on a Rega turntable and cartridge and for me, it doesn’t touch a CD player costing half that (using the same amp, speakers and cables).
Maybe I need to spend more? I won’t be doing so, but ultimately I’m disappointed.
I only have a modest system, Cyrus 6a Amp, Pro-Ject Carbon w/ Ortofon 2M blue and Acrylic platter, Pro-Ject phono stage and some bad ass 1983 KEF Carina II speakers..
my tastings have showed that for me Vinyl is my fave format, used Arcam, NAD and Marantz KI signature CD players and nope, always too ‘ting ting ting’ on the cymbals, less separation of instruments and a narrow(er) soundstage.. so much so that I haven’t had CD now for 2 odd years, Vinyl or streaming..
so I doubt you need to spend more(or much more at worse), you just more likely prefer the sound of seedee
Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
rarities in Charity shops, your best chance of a bargain is Auctions now.The internet killed
Charity shop bargains i'm afraid.Five years hunting I ended up with about 10 valuable
records and must have looked through thousands upon thousands.
Turned up in a Charity shop in Hebden Bridge for a quid.
for 500-700 quid I’d get a 3-400 quid rega P3 or equivalent, a 200 quid denon mc cartridge - I think they’re called 102R or something, an mc phono stage from pro-jekt or cambridge or similar, and use the amp and speakers you have. Compare that to a 500 quid CD player - that’ll fare quite well. It won’t be perfect and the CD player will still outperform in some criteria, but some of the above inherent benefits of vinyl will shine through enough and you will at least enjoy the listen.
Edit - oh, and some Art du Son solution and a trackmate windy-roundy-thing.
Supportact said: [my style is] probably more an accumulation of limitations and bad habits than a 'style'.
Years ago well before the Internet, even mobile phones, I was reading a magazine featuring an interview with John Renbourn. He mentioned that one of his great regrets was he had lost his one and only copy of "Solomon's Seal", which was the only Pentangle album missing from his collection. The album had been discontinued long ago, and John mentioned he lived in hope of finding a copy secondhand. I had a copy of the album, so I contacted one of the specialist record stores I knew quite well and they did have John's address so were able to forward a letter for me.
A few days later a very excited John Renbourn rang. I explained how I had read the interview and clearly owning the album would mean a lot more to him than me, and I would be happy to part with it.
I would have given it away but John insisted on paying what in retrospect was quite a lot of money at the time. And he sent me a lovely hand written thank you letter which I still have.
The point is, none of this would happen in the digital/Internet era. I don't miss vinyl so much as the excitement, anticipation and and wonder of the age. Much of the appeal of vinyl lies it's context, and the context is a world that no longer exists. It's like owning a classic car from the 1960's and driving in modern day traffic.
Buying vinyl has been a big part of why I love buying music again. I've had a nice turntable and quality stereo for years, but I've only had room to have it unpacked and setup for the past 2 years.
Now, I love the buzz of getting a limted vinyl. But I also use my iMac and wireless speakers for music as well. Best of both worlds, plus there is something about owning music physically which hits a peak with vinyl.
Vinyl doesn't nicely set itself up like CD does, if you want excellent sound out of the blocks and ease of use, I wouldn't even bother with CD these days necessarily, just get streaming...
Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
Maybe it needs setting up? But I invested in scales to get the cartridge weight right, and have used the Rega set up tool, so it should be ok.... Cartridge is a Rega Elys 2, which I bought specifically as the reviews said it had a particularly wide soundstage.
Amp is a Marantz PM6005 into AE Aegis 3 speakers.
I collect vinyl for my own use, and I keep MP3s of my old CD collection, so, yes I agree with you.
My point wasn't "f**k vinyl, do streaming", as I explained up-thread, I love both.
My point is, if you want easy and convenient, the product you want is probably streaming, not Vinyl, where the appeal is more the "experience". Yes, the overall sound is arguably better than CD in some ways, mostly based on Vinyl's inherent flaws, on any decent deck (I don't subscribe to the elitist idea that you need to spend thousands, you don't) , but that wasn't the appeal for me.
Chasing the "perfect" sound reproduction is in some ways like chasing the perfect guitar tone, you can spend any amount of money you care to name, but maybe a good decent setup is best for most of us?
Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
Mitigating that is the fact you can download your library from Spotify to your local PC or phone etc while you maintain a subscription, you need to go online every 30 days.
Further to your point however is that if that is all your music always, when you are old and grey you probably will not want to listen to new music as much as old, and maintaining a 10 or 20 quid a month subscription just to do that will probably grate on you.
Maintaining some kind of local library is wise