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He’s also completely wrong.
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He was *obviously* never a super-technical speedy drummer but that isn't what great rock&roll/pop ever needs.
Likewise the other 3. All were the perfect members in their roles in the band
Unlike that comment from Quincy Jones, it is completely ego free.
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What is the most important characteristic of great music? And who is to say what great is and why?
Popularity is not an answer. There is so much great music out there, that barely even registers in terms of popularity.
It's also possible to be a perfectly good songwriter, but a very poor musician (Dylan and Neil Young spring to mind)
Just as possible to be a technically great musician with nothing to say.
You could also argue that QJ has produced enough hit records, to understand the difference between good and bad musicians and given the body of work he has done and the success he has, his opinion is probably not all wrong.
That song linked in the OP is a miserable dirge anyway!
I don't really see that comment is ego driven. He was asked his impression, he gave it. In terms of musicianship the Beatles were not up there I don't think it very easy to argue against that.
They wrote some songs, got popular, developed along the way, but as individuals they are not particularly competent musicians. They didn't need to be though.
This stiff always makes me laugh ... and this isn't aimed at anyone in this thread I don't believe ... that there's is an awful lot of musician slagging on this forum (and in general to be honest) but as soon as it's pointed at the Beatles the speaker is an idiot.
FWIW, I can't stand the Beatles and George aside (I love nearly everything he did after) I don't think they were very competent performers ... sorry. But doesn't mean they didn't write good songs, they just aren't to my taste. But I suspect there was a hell of a lot of studio polishing ... and they couldn't be heard live anyway so ...
Most of their contemporary moptop imitators missed that bit and just strummed Buddy Holly-type songs in Scouse or Manc accents. It took a fair while for bands like The Move to pull it all apart and see how it worked.
Quincy Jones, like Lightning Hopkins, Chuck Berry and Miles Davis had battles to overcome which made him a bitter old git. Mainly justified bitterness, but not always. You'd never hear BB King talk about fellow musicians like that, even really crap ones.
Make that "technically poor" and I agree.
Agree with this.
Utter bollocks.
You are confusing technical competence with musicianship.
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Some years ago there was a documentary where they produced some footage of a live performance of "Ticket to Ride" and switched between the disc recording and the live version. As they say on "I'm Sorry I haven't a Clue" there wasn't a gnat's crotchet between the two. All those Ringo bashers out there - how many drummers do you know who can exactly reproduce a recording without a click track?
What sort of "studio polishing" were you thinking of, specifically? Have you heard all the mistakes that were left in?
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