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If you are trying to get to a guitar that does everything you may also run into issues. Most designs work best when they do a few things well. Focus your custom ideas on a few main things you want from a main guitar. Don't try and cram it all in or you will be buying a Homer.
If your design is really out there try to remember most guitar designs go through prototypes and R&D. The first version of a new design is unlikely to be perfect.
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For instance Poopot on the forum had a tele neck made by us and didn't like the modern Gibsons he'd played so i let him play a few different LP style guitars which he liked better, he actually said why can't gibson make them like these, lol
I also like mixing and matching fender and gibson and did set neck strat and tele with gibson style necks which i prefer, you can't buy these either, same as a full carved top dc junior which I'm building now
If you can't find it in the shops get something made by someone you trust and visit them and try some guitars out would be my advice
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This is the kind of input that is needed.
Not everyone would consider the risk of obtaining what they really want but some people do!
The thread was started to build up a picture of the pitfalla and the rewards of doing your own thing.
Thank you for your input.
One thing you can't go in and buy is a dc junior with a vintage fret scale, only small makers use it, some care some don't, i know i do as that's the only scale i use on any short scale i make
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Yes, strictly speaking it’s a fake - but it’s only a fake if it’s sold as a complete unit. A custom headstock job does not a Chibson make.
If anything, it’s an Engson. And even then, it’s not really. If I chose to put a fender logo on my partscaster, it doesn’t make it a Chibson. It makes it a partscaster with a fender logo on it.
I have a 51Precision partscaster with no logo but it does have the right shape headstock and body dimensions. It’s custom tho - you won’t find another out there similar. But it’s not a Chibcision tho.
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It's why I buy customs.
I'd guess that the neck joint and heel don't look like Gibson ones either.
It is obviously in the style of, but it is not to my mind a fake as it would not fool anyone taking more than a cursory glance at it - the "Gibson" logo on the headstock on its own means this isn't a fake.
Chibson definition: contraction of 'Chinese Gibson'. ie. a guitar that seeks to fake a Gibson made in china and with an illegal Gibson name serial number and 'Made in the USA' stamp/decal. A guitar that by forum rules you may not post pictures of the branding (the headstock).
The guitar in the post by @Doug is none of those things.
The logo sails close to the wind, true ... much as the 'Burny' headstock logo does/did, but it's not a 'Chibson'.
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I took a chance on this and ordered it blind when I realised they were building these necks, took a bit of a punt if I’m honest... but I needed a tele neck anyway and the cost was well within budget so I blagged my way into the build... best thing I’ve done in recent years!!!!!
ive also played some of Darren’s LP type guitars and can honestly say they are better than anything Gibson have put out, better than the “true historics”... hate to use a cliche but they really do sing.
if I can offload a kidney or one of the kids I will be commissioning one of those as well!...
Now here’s the “regrets” part!... I should have got the same neck made as a strat neck instead of a tele neck, but only because I gig strats and not tele’s...
if you are thinking about comissioning a build give @customkits a call first!...
i agree with you though that id never commission a guitar that looks exactly like a les Paul. Just can't see the point and rather buy one in a shop after many try's on various guitars
The rest is in the fingers. An awesome player can make a cheap Chinese guitar sound fantastic etc
But it was a bit of a gamble - bear in mind most signature guitars are the result of a series of prototypes, despite the fact that they've been made for pros who you might think would've already worked out exactly what they want. For myself, I was just choosing from a set of options, and specifying a colour I like (and even then I made a mock up in photoshop to see how it all looked). The physical specs were based on a limited choice and preferences I've had for a long time. I think I would've had a very good chance of getting it wrong if I'd tried to create something highly original!
The only other thing I wish I had done differently is the Scratchplate Colour, I had a White one with it and wished I'd gone Mint Green or Parchment. It's too costly to get a new one from the Builder and I think it would be a faff to try and age the White Plastic of the current Scratchplate.
Thing is, you have to know what you want, I took a gamble on the neck profile, I went for something different which is foolish when such sums are involved. The other thing "Colours" can change with taste, but I wish I'd seen more of the classic colour schemes before just going for White on the Scratchpate. I think I used to look at Guitars and assume the Scratchplate was white, I didn't know the Subtle differences when mixing colours.
Everything else about the Guitar is stunning, it's a pure tone machine and I'd never sell it.