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They are so dynamic and I can't play anything else now. Like having an overdrive button!
The Andy James sig are in a Jumbo size - he is the player who the Flow picks were made for. He played those Jazz 207s and he liked them, but he also liked Ultex. Dunlop made him a Jazz 207 in Ultex and he stuck with it for a long time and he sold them on his websites. It was from there that the Flow picks came about.
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Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after youInteresting about the link with the 207s and the Andy Jame origin of the flow picks, didn't realise about that. I do have a hunch that somewhere in the flow range could be "my" pick anyhow, hoping I'm right. The 207s may be a bit too rounded for me, but I do want to try them all the same.
The dimple in the middle makes it easy to keep hold of them.
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I've been using Planet Waves Black Ice 1.5mm since they came out and no plan to change from them.
A nice balance between weight and precision.
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Will have to have a proper look at the V-Picks range - if there is something that looks about right for me shape-wise, that could be a contender, cheers.
I used to use the standard big stubby mainly, but then I discovered the nylon bug stubby, which I like a lot more. I also use and like the Dunlop Jazz 3. Two more different plectrums you probably could not find, but they are my go-to picks, as well as the one good old Dava control pick that I have owned for about 15 years.
The new picks:
Of the 3, I think I do like the Flow 3.0mm best - it really does seem to promote accuracy and speed for single note playing. Also I think I got it right first time regarding going for the 3.0 jumbo version - it's good for me in terms of size and I don't think going any less thick would give me anything useful. And the molded pattern front and back does assist a lot with grip. I was a bit less sure about it for playing funk strumming stuff (Nile Rogers riffs for example), which is something I need quite often, but after a little experimentation, I think I can probably use it for this also, and again, it does help with precision. A question of a bit of adaptation I'd say, but that is always going to be the case.
The 207 is not at all bad in many ways, and the thinner profile somehow seems to compensate for the rounder tip - it's still quite precise feeling to me. Where I struggle more is with keeping the pick constantly located in my fingers. I may try doing something - filing or drilling holes - to improve this aspect, but also, perhaps I'll be able to adapt, time will tell.
Least good is the 5mm Primetone, to my surprise - I think the main issue is that the bevel at the point is too shallow, so I end up catching the side corners if I try to pick at all firmly. And if I concentrate on not catching the corners, then I still get a rather skaty, weedy kind of tone, and the note attack seems imprecise. Kind of a feeling of skating over the strings without the pick making a proper contact. Having said this, I think with a bit of filing and smoothing, to make the bevel less shallow, and it could be very different, and I might like it for more straight ahead clean jazz kind of use - although faffing about with filing and stuff was something I really hoped to get away from.
So - most likely outcome at this point seems to me to be I'll go with the Flow Jumbo 3.0mm's - they really seem like a find to me, and I may order a few more immediately. I'll just put a couple of pics of the self-made horn pick I've been using most recently - at the mo, it feels nice and familiar, and good to use, but I have to admit it's already beaten by the Flow for that precise, fast feel on single note lead playing.
Also, I may still investigate the nylon Stubby and V-picks options, but I already feel I've found something very good with the Flow 3.0.
edit: just realised, the 5mm ones I'm not so keen on are called "Primetones" (not "Jazztones as I originally called them) - I think the advertised pictures of these are misleading, as they don't show the very shallow bevel and marked corners to the profile - so disappointing there. The "Jazztones" are the 207s, which I do like.
Striker Big Mini is what I use. Great feel, tone and accuracy. I think they improved my playing. Another good thing about them is that they are symmetrical, you can use any of the three corners.
My preferred one is 1.5mm but you can get heavier.
Rob
I picked up a nylon 3mm Stubby a few years back and found that it kind of stuck to the strings. I’m not sure if Dunlop has changed the formula for the nylon stubbies since then to make them more of a smoother plastic and less of a sticky nylon.
The Flow is really at least as good as I'd hoped - I did have a hunch about that one, so it's more than lived up to that. And the surprise is really the 207, which I like a lot also - and although not at all the same, it does seem similar to use compared to the Flow, so I can easily swap from one to the other.
Not sure re the Stubby picks really - I did actually try one briefly, maybe 5 or more years ago, and didn't get on at all. But that was when I was just starting out with picks again after decades of not using a pick at all - my pick technique is much better now, so I might like them just fine I suppose. I did make some picks of my own from Delrin plastic, which I suspect is similar to nylon - easy to use, but a bit "smooth" sounding attack-wise. I've found I like a harder material for the pick, as it gives a bit of character to the note attack.