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This is classic marketing. If you tell
people the prices are going up, they *will* go up.
Fact is prices are STATIC. In fact the prices asked are rarely being met. Look at the classifieds on here and on Faceache. The same guitarshave been for sale for a *long* time.
I can see both sides of the discussion - Yes a glut of good qualities used products for sale - the economy - the balance of need v want of acquiring another guitar - Recent vast increase of new guitar prices on all major brands, certainly over the last 5 years - All factors for +/- changes to the used market
I was recently questioning the asking prices of Fender Fullerton USA reissues, from the early 80's, with Reverb, amongst others, including an FB member and I'm amazed at the asking prices - Often well over 2K and I thought this was total BS and no way could they sell at such prices - They showed me recent actual data, of a number of sales that supported such prices - I still find it hard to believe that such a guitar can still command those prices - As such I question my own logic and knowledge - Yet I would not dare stock such a guitar at such a price
One advantage Reverb has over FB private sales is the instant on-line payment option of paypal/card, coupled with a returns option, coupled with far larger 'viewing figures'
This suggests there may be something in the hyphothesis that people no longer want big amps, with lower stage volume, modellers etc.
Cost of offering a warranty if sold via a dealer
How much can you get for a 10/20 year old tranny Peavey or Marshall amp - then look at the cost of a Boss Katana or similar
Such issues make used amps cheap - Like buying any old car that only does 20 to the gallon
And Reverb isn’t the sales place of choice for a lot of musos, myself included, for a lot of reasons - despite their marketing. I’d be more interested in ebay’s data, personally.... despite what we all think of them, they are the market leader.
In a world where we are all seeing guitars sat for sale for upwards of six months at a time, and the only time they sell is when the price is dropped.... who do we believe?
Ive had first had with this - stuff sells if it’s below ‘market’ price but if you want to hold out for top dollar, it’s just not selling.
The market is over crowded - this leads to price drops (basic economics). Anyone claiming otherwise is trying to massage the market - don’t believe the hype, follow the money etc etc).
Ymmv, always read the label, does not include batteries etc...
Buy NOW, before Christmas!
I think that the used prices of all Fender guitars have risen slightly which you'd expect with the new prices rapidly increasing, there's some fairly decent prices achieved for sold Custom Shop guitars on ebay.The stuff you see hanging around is usually vastly over priced and for sale by private sellers with no understanding of the market.
Not in real terms if you look at the table in the linked article. They have risen 5% over three years, while inflation is running at 7% over the same time period. (That's excluding the "vintage" stuff, which does seem to have risen).
Other brands aren't doing as well as Fender on second hand prices.
How many other past times allow you to 'purchase' a product/service, then weeks, months, or years later, sell it and get some funds back - Granted there are some, but many high street products have close to zero collateral in them, when you wish to dispose of them at a later date
I use the term Mondeo's and Cavaliers - ie products with no or little aspirational attributes in them, that are far more of commodity, coupled with a shed load of them available, will always be less appertizing in the market place
Granted I don't use e-bay and I'm not selling as a 'punter' plus I sell very little in the way of used 'Mondeo's and Cavalier's ' so I can't fully evaluate that market place - I've just had a quick look on e-bay and there are shed loads of Fenders for sale between £600 and £1000, so yes over saturated
Equally I find the asking price of some used guitars, more by 'punters' via Reverb, FB or E-bay, that are silly and I question my knowledge for not being up to date with such prices - Or I question the sellers logic in the hope that they will acquire such a price - A recent 70's SG2000 near £2500 and USA Fullerton Vintage Reissue Strats at well over £2000
Dry joints on a crap printed circuit board might end up as a 10 second repair with a soldering iron - But might take a while to find the actual dry joint - Plus some poorly built products might well have a number of dry joints - As such is it worth spending 2 hours of repair time on a 20 year old Peavey Bandit, only to find it is a dry joint - ie what do you charge out your 'repair time' on an item that might only fetch £50-100
Vintage amps are still a commodity - A Boss Katana will be come like a ghetto blaster, hence totally disposable in 5-10 years once it no longer works - sad but true
https://www.atbguitars.com/store/product/1982-fender-stratocaster-avri-ohsc-1982stratavri/
John Page told me that these were a case of making the best of what they had back then.....which was very little. Funds, materials and info were in short supply at Fender back then.
At that money, I'd get a Custom Shop guitar, which would probably be a much better guitar. Or alternatively, I'd get an American Original or Mexican Classic Series, and spend the difference on taking my family on holiday.
Agree with you @strat54 in that at the time they were the best they had and remember this was the first time Fender, via the USA had gone back to this era - But a lot of water under the bridge since and IMO no reason to pay such a price for such a guitar - I just don't get it - Please enlighten me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!