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I found that a 1x12" struggles against a loud drummer, whereas a 2x12" pushes more air & sounds 'louder', even if it isn't.
But there's the weight difference to consider - which is why I swapped to a head & 2x12" separates
If you want thump, projection and portability, get a 1x12" open-back combo and a closed-back (or ported) extension cabinet, probably with a heavier-sounding speaker in it. That will give you effectively a vertical 2x12", and much more thump from the cabinet.
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To me, the compromise was totally worth it. In fact I find the 1x12 less beamy than the 2x12, and is easily loud enough to keep up with the drummer. Tone wise I get all the thump and bass response with the closed back Orange that I need. Compared to the 2x12 I did not hear an obvious downgrade in the sound quality.
So now the Mesa only comes out for the big stage, and the Orange is the default or everything else.
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I used to gig with a 1x12 combo plus a 1x12 extension cab, one stage left and one stage right and was very happy with my sound. It also spread my sound around the stage and made it easier for the rest of the band to hear me without needing to turn up too loud. It was also quite portable.
My last few gigs before being forced into a gig-hiatus was with a 212 combo and I wasn't nearly as pleased with its sonic performance. I had several people tell me that in certain parts of the venue it was barely audible but in others quite deafening.
I've never played one but I recall reading the Guitarist Mag review of the Mesa Rectoverb 1x12 combo. The reviewer seemed blown away by it's ability to give a 4x12-esq thump.
If I was to get back into gigging now I'd probably seek out a couple of open back 1x12 cabs again, or maybe even a couple of vertical 2x12 cabs, although I think my dream rig would be to run a Super Reverb and Bassman reissue side by side
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Case in point, the Diezel Einstein combo I have is a 1x12 open back format. I put a Creamback in it.
It has more low end than is ever needed and in no way ever sounds thin. It sounds much fuller and richer than my band-mates JCM900 into a 1936 2x12, and it also sits in the mix much better.
Im actually gravitating towards the 1x12 open back combo format a lot more nowadays. In a band mix, I actually find they occupy a more useful sonic space than bigger amps/cabs. I also find them less beamy. I have a Bogner O/S 2x12 which are more or less pretty much the "best" 2x12 cabs you can buy. When walking around the room, the guitar sound changes a lot more than if I am using one of my combos...
Make of that what you will, but the days of me ever using a 4x12 are long gone. Unless the Thin Lizzy tribute band takes off, then I'll likely have to buy a Greenback loaded Marshall 4x12 so the image is about right... But that's about it. It wouldn't be a tonal consideration as such.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
I wonder what are the pros and cons between using 2 1x12's or 1 2x12 vertical cab??
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You also have the option of mixing speakers - although I have't experimented
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein