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80% of our set is live, however we have maybe 6 songs that are click track guided with synth/strings/piano where applicable... think Journey, final Countdown, jump.
We also employ some samples triggered during songs akin to Rush..
Is it a crime?
is it crazy how saying sentences backwards creates backwards sentences saying how crazy it is?
The SPD is a powerful tool, with a bit of thought you can use it ways that are subtle but very powerful.
I suspect the normal punters are fine with it though.
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Danny1969 said: The audience really isnt interested. Live music is of no interest to anyone in pubs and hasnt been for last 15 years. Id genuinely say that for every gig thats busy which folks dancing and enjoying themselves, theres 3 that are to empty rooms. Thanks fully I enjoy playing guitar, so it doesnt bother me if Im playing with a band or to a backing track, or to an empty pub or heaving.
I’ve used them with a duo before. Made sense as I jumped between bass, keys or guitar for different songs.
There is worse though.. discos that are way too loud!… and full karaoke
I go to an open mic that allows people to sing to backing tracks and I don't like that much, either. It's karaoke.
I know what you mean. Where I live, there are 3-4 specialist venues for live, original music. In the main, though, the pubs and clubs in the area want generic covers bands to get the audience singing/dancing, having a good time and buying drink (which is understandable). Most people don't want to listen to music they don't already know. There are some really good bands on the local circuit and many more mediocre ones, but the audiences still have a good time with the mediocre ones, so who's to say it's not OK?
I've done the BT thing, between 1998 and 2002 I worked in a duo using BT's on minidisc. I sequenced the tracks using my keyboard and played them back live using a minidisc player in a rack. Then we added live guitar, bass and 2 vocals. It was a good earn at the time but nothing like a proper band. After 4 years I went back to a real band again and have been there ever since.
For me there's 2 things I don't like about bands using BT's. It's kinda lazy and a lot of bands don't understand how to integrate the BT in properly. So there's this mix of raw guitar, bass and drums with relatively unprocessed vocals and then this mastered smooth BT ..... it just doesn't gel properly to my ears. To get in convincing you really need a less processed BT and a more processed live sound ... not just the backline in terms of switching to modelling but also treating the vocals properly too. Also Less is more, I think BT's work better when they fill out the sound without being completely obvious.
Yep some bands have a better idea of how to do than others that's for sure.
we used Karaoke-version custom tracks for our backing tracks. I always went in a re-mixed them so they would work live. It was mainly just minor volume tweaks here and there, just to ensure they were normalised across the whole set.
I love the Sleaford Mods but there is no pretence involved with them. He is honestly and unashamedly pressing the space bar on a laptop and then standing there. It makes similar acts look very silly
Someone I know performed with a large touring act (main stage Glastonbury etc) and that show was all backing tracks except the drummer, a little bit of guitar here and there and (some of) the vocals. So it's not like it always comes down to budget. For many types of music it's just the way it's done
I joke that playing in a rock band now is like a historical reenactment
So in a 2 hr set we`ve got non avoidable keys down to a couple of Bon Jovi numbers, Hold the Line, Jump, Final Countdown, Power of Love and Dude Looks Like a Lady. Interestingly we tried Why Can`t This Be Love with tracks, but stuck to the guitar playing the synth part as sounding much better.
In each case it`s only the prominent `missing` part on the track we use - there is all kinds of stuff you could put in (particularly on the Aerosmith) with percussion, 2nd guitar, BVs etc etc - we started with that and it sounded awful. Just the
horn part sounds fine and stops the mix being too busy.
Occasionally I miss an actual keys player, but on the plus side we now play Countdown at the correct speed and my fingers manage the solo pretty easily and consistently!
All things considered the tracks work well for us.