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For Buffet , it's all about value investing, so when this less-risky approach brings the same returns as long-term investment in a growth fund, it's worth doing some analysis
Warren Buffet:
“Common yardsticks such as dividend yield, the ratio of price to earnings or to book value, and even growth rates have nothing to do with valuation, except to the extent they provide clues to the amount and timing of cash flows into and from the business. Indeed, growth can destroy value if it requires cash inputs in the early years of a project or enterprise that exceed the discounted value of the cash that those assets will generate in later years. Market commentators and investment managers who glibly refer to "growth" and "value" styles as contrasting approaches to investment are displaying their ignorance, not their sophistication. Growth is simply a component - usually a plus, sometimes a minus - in the value equation.”
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/01/071801.asp#:~:text=He looks at each company,extremely capable of generating earnings.
Describing specific shares as value or growth is simplistic
But that's not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about doing the value investment research - looking for undervalued companies and then waiting for earnings and a likely share price improvement.
This is a good quote:
I have no time or inclination for that level of professional investing so index funds it is for me and I'll happily take average market returns accordingly.
S+P down to 3656 today, looks like my mate was correct, the dip being just 2-3 weeks later than expected
He's been very busy shorting the S+P, so will have made lots of cash
I got interested in 2020, and in April 2020 he predicted the October 2020 falls. It's a strange blend of looking at patterns on charts, and an understanding of the group think psychology of the markets
as well as the way companies work, balance sheets, annual reports, bonds, lending, etc
i've increased my salary sacrifice to the max allowable within the tax advantaged £40K annual limit and in a contrarian move I am hoovering up a sizeable chunk of low fee US index fund units, at an increasing discount, each month for long term future rewards, dividends are being reinvested every quarter as well.
Regardless of the FUD and panic selling by the weak willed, I buy, month in month out. I reckon we are not at the bottom of the bear market yet so I look forward to buying more units at knock down sale prices for the rest of the year, or as long as it goes on for.
There is not enough capitulation and despair yet to call a bottom but it will come and these cheap units will serve me well in retirement and all I have to do is…nothing.
At present, a lot of the "dogs" got caned about a month ago, typically they drop before the big shares. Some of them are quite attractive at present, trading far below net value.
- Blackrock US Equity Tracker (tracks the FTSE US Index) - my pension 100% (0.16% total annual fees)
- Vanguards VUSA S&P500 ETF - wife's SIPP 100% (0.15% + 0.07% annual fees)
- L&G Global Technology Index - S&S ISA 100% (0.70% total ISA annual fees)
I have been toying with switching to Global Equity Indexes (as is the commonly recommended path for indexers) such as the Blackrock MSCI World Index (non hedged) which I have access to for my pension and/or Vanguard's VWRL for my wife's but remain in the above funds, as we have been for a a few years now and I have no fears or concerns about the US's economic outlook for the next 30-50 years that deter me enough. Global funds are 60+% US anyway and it's not the US element that worry's me with global funds, it's the ROW!My comment above regarding asset allocation - 70% stocks, 20% bonds & 10% cash is under review, it was made before the full effect of this year's bonds crash had unfolded.
I may just carry on holding 80% stock funds and 20% cash and forego the bonds completely. The bonds crash this year has been a bit of an eye opener and I don't like the idea of being in a bond fund that has long duration bonds that are stuck in the mud for years ahead. Some of the bond funds are going to take some time to get back to parity and interest rates haven't stopped rising yet.
My plan is to put all salary sacrifice contributions to cash for 2023 to build up a cash buffer for retirement but I will be tempted to keep buying the equity indexes if the markets keeps dropping.
Feel free to critique, I am at peace and sleep like a baby at night
I think a lot of people have had most cash invested in the US.
AFAIK the world tracker is more than 50% US too
In the FT investing guide I read (by Glen Arnold), btw I recommend reading this, and he starts with the same complaints we all agree on - fund managers performing badly compared to index funds. But also says what I keep going on about - that bright normal, numerate people should be learning this stuff for themselves
Anyway he talked about not keeping US equities in 2019 (since earnings ratio being worst since 1929), but buying "deep value" OK shares, but (since US market drives changes in UK market) also hedging by buying some out-of-the-money put options on the Dow Jones.
I'd recommend learning about this.
There are a thousand opinions out there and many roads to Jericho
"Don't do something, just stand there" John C Bogle
Buffet is a master at picking value stocks, and his moves this year are what he's always done, buy when he sees value and holds for the long term.
I'm not, so I take the safer route of buying the whole index, as I realise that while I could learn what Buffet does, just as anyone can study Mike Tyson's moves, it doesn't mean I would be a champion boxer. I know my limits!
I came to the decision recently that I'd rather not invest in bond funds. At the beginning of the year I had four, which only represented about 8% of my portfolio. I sold one in April, when I did a bit of rejigging in relation to sorting out the investment of my 2022/2023 ISA allowance, and that included, rather belatedly, buying a holding of Berkshire Hathaway.
In the last 2 weeks, I've sold another of my bond funds, and used the money and this year's accumulated ISA dividend cash to top up a USA fund and two infrastructure funds (the price of both of the latter had held up well this year, until about 3 weeks ago when the price of both dropped about 15% for no obvious reason that I could find). Both have subsequently pleasingly recovered 10%. I've now used up all my ISA cash, though I'll hopefully be looking to boost one of my other holdings, when enough dividend money has accumulated again.
I have some decisions to make over the next 2/3 years as I want to move from 100% stock index funds, build some cash and maybe hold my nose and buy some bond funds to smooth out the volatility in retirement. But for now it's still 100% buying of US equity funds.