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https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/gsp1101-oddity-with-direct-out-and-global-cab.1209532/
So it means that it you want to rely on the global cab then you have to set the cab in the preset itself to 'Direct' (i.e. no cab sim). That would be fine if that setting persisted but every time you change the amp in the preset, it automatically changes the cab to whatever the matching cab is. So, you then have to change the cab back to Direct. This means there's not a lot of point in having a global cab function at all - you may as well just edit each preset.
Although, I suppose once you set everything to Direct, then you can change the global cab and try different ones...so maybe there is some benefit.
It does seem a really weird design choice that the internal preset cab sim i snot bypassed when you switch on the Global Cab function...feels like a mistake to me.
that thread you linked I suspect is actually saying if you set cab in preset to direct the global cab still applies instead of direct. He's complaining global cab stays on when he sets direct in preset. And that is expected behaviour as global cab should apply globaly to all output from all presets (that's the point). He is saying to get some presets with a cab and some without he has to set them in each preset. Yep.. Very true. If your presets are to be a mix of some using IR/cab and some not then you need to set it per preset and global won't work for you.
Also worth looking. Setting cabs to off doesn't sound 100% the same as direct which in theory should be same.
its part of reason i want to find a really gash, deliberately weird muddled band limited sounding IR file for testing so can easily hear what its doing. Again I am fairly damn sure the gsp doesn't have capability to mix cabs so must be a different reason for global to sound different.
idea....
for global upload same cab as your using but 256fs version and tick box to upload it as mono. This will give you a proper 256fs IR capability but apply to left channel only (bit that is maxing gsp capability so shouldn't be room for preset cab to affect it. Use this as global cab and make sure using left xlr out.
next idea turn on cab on 1/4" as well then turn on global cab (and just use the xlr out)
is your power amp mono or stereo? And are you feeding it just left xlr or both?
Do headphones tell the same story or just xlr?
What I did to test it was set up 2 identical presets, one with a cab selected and one 'direct'. Then switched on the global cab and flipped between the two presets - sounded very different.
One thing on the Helix was I didn't really like the Marshall models but the GSP has some great ones - the JCM800 and 900 are particularly good and I had loads of fun with the JCM2000 one - very much reminded me of my old DSL50.
I've got practice tomorrow and I'm going to take it to that...hopefully the wheels won't come off then!
Agree about the life to it... It does as it says and doesn't loose tone so swap guitar and it sounds like swapping guitar on a real amp and reacts differently as a real amp would. It also seems to have it where amp models also react well to rolling off volume control when amp itself would do the same. Xt generation pod's i tried were more one tone, swap guitar and still sounded like the preset and reacts less well to touch/volume control use.
Remember digitech brown sound is actually a really good surprise Marshall sounding amp model that can be a bit of a hidden gem defo worth a quick audition if looking for Marshall sounds
Wheels shouldn't come off as one thing i find with gsp is it doesn't get lost in mix, even direct to desk, like some modellers do.
Also may depend on what pedal models you want. Obviously the gsp does seriously good dod,digitech,lexicon stuff, the tube screamer is as close to indistiguishable from real thing as i reckon you'll get. So may come down to which pedal list sound better for you. I like flexibility of gsp to do 4 cable, or incorporate rack pre and provide non cab to amp and cab modelled to xlr so can fit into most amps, or provided backlines or even straight to desk (planned or emergency) and none of the routes sound like a compromise tacked on feature. Also like flexability of output midi mapping so can control midi devices, loops, amp channels (via midi or a midi to 1/4" unit) so if spend a little time on programs and midi you never need more than the control 2. Could even have an 8 loop unit with a real pedal in each loop and again have presets and stomps switch them if you wanted to get really fancy and incorporate some real pedals to setup.
but yeah a decent demo of it getting used for some non metal things and showing efx getting used as you might in a live or recorded performance would be awesome. With good quality recording and so on so can really get a feel for it via good speakers of headphones.
I feel like the unit really suits me because it is less flexible than things like the Helix - I really suffered with option paralysis with that. The GSP does everything a standard player would need and sounds really great. Although it is all menu based, it works really well because you don't need to do a lot of tweaking...things just sound good straight out of the box! The default parameters are really sensible. Great unit. For the cost of it...just mad value.
yeah some stuff is menus but for presets xedit on computer is superb so something like a wee 8" acer win8/10 tablet off eBay or similar for £40 or there abouts can be a useful thing for editing without laptop or for taking presets at practise when you can hear mix plus can double up to have lyrics, notes, set list etc too (or even play music during breaks - gsp acts as a sound card too so just the usb cable required and your tablet can provide the fill in music as your setting up or on a break.
For cost i don't think there is anything close (amplifire can do similar but not sure it fully fills same space as you'd also need a good floor unit to make it as useable and then its priced quite a bit higher). Don't think headrush sounds as good from demos i have seen. Personally i don't think helix sounds as good (but reckon its a personal thing and and others may think helix sounds better). Personally i say its as close to an axefx as you can get (and axe only pulls away a little if you really get to grips with some of extra setting to really tweak to your own sound. All for price of... We'll feck me some single pedals cost the freeking same or more. Kemper seems good and not used one myself but have seen a few people now say that when playing with someone using and axefx gsp1101 sits alongside in mix better than kemper.
You want more fx? Why not a gsp with l6 multifx modeller round gsp. Gives you more pedal options, you could then stack pedals and all sorts and still likely come in quite a bit cheaper than half axe/kemper stuff without even thinking about controlling them. l6 M stuff has midi iirc correctly so could set up presets to match and even have control 2 turning L6 stomps on/off.
other clever options. If going 4 cable or running a rack preamp in gsp's loop you can turn up the volume in gsp before loop and send amp/preamp a hotter signal and turn back down after loop so not any louder than other presets but you have created a much more driven sound from your preamp without a pedal adding its own signature. So its like ability to add extra drive channels to your real amp as well.
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