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I tend to find the biggest problems performance wise are with people who don't normally drink or smoke deciding to have a drink or smoke and they simply aren't used to it and then their playing goes to pot
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My points were:
(a) None of your band members are the person who attacked you.
(b) Weed is not known to be a generally "violent" drug.
and ergo (c) For all the other concerns about the drug use (reliabilty, productiveness, quality of their performances etc), it is unlikely to the point of negligibility that your band mates will attack you as a result of their drug use.
That doesn't mean to say you should be OK with it, or that you shouldn't say anything or do anything about it, I just don't think it is fair to project your previous horrific experience onto your bandmates.
Sounds cold when typed in black and white, but it isn't meant to be. I totally get why the idea of weed smoking would be a concern
My issue ultimately is not the substance, it could be oxo cubes for all I care, perhaps an illicit Bovril ring...
the point im making is not the affect it has on the individual, but the types of people you have to deal with to obtain the stuff, i.e. Criminals.
People who who have no compunction beating the shit out of one of your mates over £20, then intimidating your family so you don't show up to court, leaving your mate to sit in the court while the criminals walk past him out the front door laughing.
Yeah that's what happened as direct result of weed.
However, it is clear from your responses that you now associate all cannabis use with one negative event. As such when anyone here suggests that maybe it's not a big deal you have clearly become defensive in your tone. Now that would be the same as never drinking a glass of wine due to a particular life changing event (drink-drive accident, alcoholic parent, etc). Not unheard of is it, you have probably met folk with this outlook? We wouldn't dream of questioning that persons choice (which is why you are mildly annoyed by what has been said), but equally if asked an opinion we might respectfully suggest that alcohol doesn't make every drinker a drink driver or alcoholic. The similarity is obvious and clearly thuggish wannabe gangster dealers (the sort who we have both encountered in some form) are not the same as an everyday smoker.
The reality is that cannabis use is not that dissimilar from drinking (hops and hemp being of same genus I believe) and the loop holes and legalities that have ended in one being socially acceptable and one legally prohibited are somewhat ridiculous and hypocritical. The law is an ass.
So, what to do about your situation? A) leave because you are not comfortable with their choices -this is fine, perhaps ask yourself first, do you enjoy playing with them and do you enjoy their company?
B ) suggest clear headed practices, one of my old bands instilled a drink free rehearsal rule as we didn't get anything done otherwise -you may find this helps.
Regardless of that point, as many have said, the use of any recreational drug is going to affect their playing. Cannabis is going to make it more difficult for them to think logically, may cause difficulty in keeping time, they may struggle with technology, they may retreat into their own heads rather than be fully engaged. On the plus side, plenty of bands have made great music whilst under the influence, because it opens up parts of the mind that our sober, logical minds keep locked away. Not so great for trying to play "Come On Eileen" at some provincial wedding, maybe very useful if you want to emulate The Grateful Dead, and go for drawn-out, thirty-minute, space jams. Which kind of band is yours?
He couldn't see the issue....
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I'm not confusing dealer and user.
There is not one without the other.
Weed and and beer may be related genetically but so are humans and dolphins if you go far enough, I've no wish to settle down and start a family with Flipper.
Your later points are valid tho, I do enjoy their company, and I can't see any impairment if focus or ability, or if there is they must be pretty shit hot when stone cold sober.
I'm just a bit upset cos I really wanted a band I could be mates with and make great music.
I cant expect people to modify their behaviour to suit me, tread on eggshells around my princess sensibilities, but I can exercise my right to walk.
I just kinda was gauging the wind before I made a decision.
It's your call though, if you're not happy you won't be in 6 months either. In that time you could've tried several other bandmates or bands.
As far as I'm concerned it isn't worth being involved with originals bands you don't see yourself being in for a long period of time... it takes ages to write and refine stuff so if you're going to resent spending the time with people long term then better to quit sooner than later
just been on JoinMyBand, so many opportunities, as long as I'm either:
1) A Drummer
2) Willing to play in a 60's covers band
3) Don't mind driving 3 hours to rehearsal and back.