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Quincy also slagged off Michael Jackson which wasn't the brightest thing to do - accused him of pinching other people's songs. The Beatles and Jackson have millions of followers on social media who are currently giving Quincy hell.
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And although it's not explored at length in the interview he is of a generation that saw the ideas of a lot of black musicians sold to the public by white faces and credit and money given in the wrong places. The Beatles, to some extent anyway, were a part of that.
I can do a reasonable Ticket to Ride, Quincy was used to working with top jazz musicians so from his perspective that's not really in the same ballpark.
Do you know the difference between a musician and a song writer?
I don't think you know what musicianship means.
I would have thought technical competence a reasonable chunk of musicianship, with the other parts made up of knowledge, feel and sensitivity. The Beatles were songwriters who got very lucky, they are nothing special, they wrote some catchy pop tunes, but honestly, like a lot of the pop/rock world are journeyman musicians whose popularity elevates their status.
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Are they insinuating that the person has sex with their mum? I've never understood that. To be honest though, I don't really understand Americans anyway.
If you like ‘em, great. I don’t. I don’t get it at all. But that’s just me.
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Don't talk politics and don't throw stones. Your royal highnesses.
It's fine to not like the Beatles, or anyone else, for that matter. That's your opinion. I'm no huge fan myself.
But you're wrong to think they weren't competent musicians. That's not really an opinion, it's a matter of fact - albeit with a degree of subjectivity.
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Most people don't want to listen to endless fretboard wanking regardless of how proficient it is. They want good songs and in that respect The Beatles pissed over everyone.
As for McCartney not being a good bass player....total bollocks.
Ringo is a great drummer because like all great drummers he plays what is right for the song.
@robinbowes yeah, I can't argue with that ... I should emphasise though, I did say performers (by which I meant technical performance) not musicians. I won't take away from their musicianship, it's just not my cuppa.
@english_bob ha ha ... yeah yeah, OK. Maybe my knowledge of "what was possible" isn't as good as it could be, but I was thinking about people like Les Paul and his ilk and what they were doing. I'd be interested to see how many takes were required, how many overdubs etc. Not that it's unusual for anyone to do so ... you know what I mean.
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1) The Beatles changed things. Certainly as far as the States was concerned, where mainstream music was Lawrence Welk and the Kingston Trio. You don't have as huge an impact as they did without being any good. I would imagine that the majority of forumites were born after The Beatles split and possibly don't get quite how amazing some of their stuff was compared to what was the prevailing norm at that time.
2) Two of them aren't around any more. I bet QJ wouldn't have said that to Lennon's face.
3) Good music doesn't necessarily come from playing an instrument in a way that other people think is "proper". It comes from the music being good. I dare say that driving a Marshall with a Les Paul wasn't using either in the way that the manufacturer would have considered "proper" but fuck, together they sounded good.
That's downright rude and ridiculous given how much money he made from being MJ's producer !!!!!
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To rate the Beatles in terms of instrumental virtuosity is a bit like viewing Chuck Berry as a failure for not being able to shred....
I don't generally expect virtuosos to be impressed by the limited musical knowledge and technical abilities of self taught pop bands.
I do not question he has an ear for a tune. But come on. Hyperbole gone mad.
I think you guys forget how good "real" musicians are. The ability to write and play catchy tunes does not make you a great musician - it makes you a commercial success.
I reckon if you could ask any of the Beatles if they considered themselves to be wonderful musicians they would all say no. My point is that QJ is right, no question. but it doesn't matter, they sold a truckload.