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I'm invoking the rule "Don't buy".
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This kinda reminds me of the thread critiquing Guthrie Govan's first album, it carried on and on and on till Paul Cornford wrecked it all by pointing out the album hadn't been finished.
I could very easily see through the flippant comment from sweepy that wound you up so much (and if you think others couldn't either then that on its own is a little insulting) and it didn't put me off your product at all. This forum has plenty of people who dont buy into all the "final 10%" stuff, and I respect that, but I'm not one of them.
However, your defensiveness and aggressive stance did put me off somewhat. So in trying to convince someone who will likely never be a customer of yours, you alienated a genuine potential customer. I found it very strange, and that was my parallel with Vertex, who's response also seemed to alienate rather the resolve.
Anyway, don't want to get drawn into this so it's my last word on the subject.
I welcome folks expressing their own personal preferences although I happen to think that the kind of "most others are snake oil" final 10% prejudice isn't helpful.
What you have seen get my juices flowing is folks who throw out such prejudice which as far as I'm concerned infers our product is in this snake oil club.
I have a right to defend that ( apologies if that means I have to be defensive) as I certainly don't want to take the risk of anyone leaving with a perception our product is snake oil.
Anyone who has been through a patent process will know you don't get granted a patent with just snake oil. You have to convince intellectual property experts that your product has novel features and it is in fact an inventive step.
Drawings help, but it gets wordy and technical to do. It remains a bit of a marketing issue for us.
Here is a relatively concise summary.
The 1st gen plates,( as per the original Leo Fender patent) with a flat top surface only pivot by loosening the fixings (this allows the plate to slide up and down the fixings). This type of plate provides a desirable tone but causes tuning to be unstable.
2nd gen plates ( e.g. as per 70 patent , eg Fender 2 post, PRS grooved screw, and Ernie Ball Luke) use indentations in the fixings ( 2 or 6) so 'float' above the guitar body. Stable but the tone generated by guitars using these bridge plates is considered to be inferior to the vintage plates.
The Wudtone (Patent GB1314545.3) overcomes the problems of the two types of plate described above. It provides stable operation and a desirable tone through the use of: recesses formed around the fixings on the top side of the bridge plate; an arc on the underside of the bridge plate to ensure constant contact with the guitar body.
If anyone here can re-write the above in a more concise, easier to understand format that :
doesn't piss of Leo Fender fans
doesn't piss of Jeff Beck or any two post bridge fans
that even sweepy would bother to read / understand
and mentions the benefits of the .5mm shim, materials used
I will give happily give them a Holy Grail version of our bridge to enjoy. It is a serious offer.
By all means PM me if you fancy taking up the challenge.
Also coming back to @JMP220478 Uk based guitarists are very empirical ( a good thing) and so want to try before they buy. OK but it is an expensive cost of sale issue so instead we offer a total delightation guarantee. i.e. If you are not absolutely delighted send it back for a full refund. Having shipped over 600 bridges all over the world the only ones returned are a couple of Vintage to Hybrid for narrower string spacing.
kind regards
Hi Andy - as stated in my post - happy to demo to give feedback on product but I'm not currently in market for a full upgrade atm - so buying to try / demo n then return etc on basis of being less than satisfied rather defeats purpose .,
I appreciate challenge of getting your product out in market , and changing preconceived ideas etc - I wonder if some strategic partnering with some of the other UK component / builders - could build a forum guitar - oil city pus / wudtone bridge / etcetera - and it could do the rounds of trusted forum members ( some sort of deposit to cover damage / occasional setup ) - maybe forum fathers could support this or annual subscription to cover this sort of thing ?
Anyways back to my needs - as mentioned - looking for a steel block to replace zinc alloy? unit in my classic player 60 .. I haven't checked your site out as yet but please point me in correct direction ..
Cheers Phil
Still need a block though :-) and happy to review and post here ..