Boss ds 1 distorion Pedal

Voxman

Best way to get a good sound from it is to swap it for a Marshall Guvn'r 2. 

James19931958

whats the marshall Guvnr 2 like?

professorben

James19931958 said:

whats the marshall Guvnr 2 like?

Bit like a DS-1......

mike_l

James19931958 said:

whats the marshall Guvnr 2 like?

Fucking awesomes. Not as awesomes as the Guvnor 1 though.

Dave_Mc

James19931958 said:

whats the marshall Guvnr 2 like?

Pretty good. Less scooped and probably not as compressed. It really depends on what you want.

James19931958

i would like to use it as a "volume boost" then i would like to use in a "distorted" way but not fuzzy or muddy.

Marktigere1

James19931958 said:

i would like to use it as a "volume boost" then i would like to use in a "distorted" way but not fuzzy or muddy.

Trouble with that is the DS-1 does not have much of a boosted output.

Try the BD-2, now that does have more output volume compared to the DS.

ICBM

James19931958 said:

i would like to use it as a "volume boost" then i would like to use in a "distorted" way but not fuzzy or muddy.

Seriously, why does everyone have an obsession with using overdrive and distortion pedals as volume boosts? If you want a boost, get a booster!

Distortion pedals are meant to distort. It's what they do.

kennedydream1980

ICBM said:

James19931958 said:

i would like to use it as a "volume boost" then i would like to use in a "distorted" way but not fuzzy or muddy.

Seriously, why does everyone have an obsession with using overdrive and distortion pedals as volume boosts? If you want a boost, get a booster!

Distortion pedals are meant to distort. It's what they do.

Yep I use a DS-1 as a Gain boost into the front of my Blackstar HT5, settings are Gain off, Level up full, Tone to taste, works great this way to add a bit of extra sustain for solos or heavier tones. In the effects loop I use  a TC spark boost mini for a Level boost, this works great for when you need a bit of extra volume for a solo or a stand out part.

Dave_Mc

ICBM said:

James19931958 said:

i would like to use it as a "volume boost" then i would like to use in a "distorted" way but not fuzzy or muddy.

Seriously, why does everyone have an obsession with using overdrive and distortion pedals as volume boosts? If you want a boost, get a booster!

Distortion pedals are meant to distort. It's what they do.

Most boosters don't let you fiddle with the tone as much, though. I used to think I wanted a clean booster, now I know I prefer an OD where I can cut the low end. I like the extra grit and compression you get from an OD versus a clean booster, too.

ICBM

Dave_Mc said:

Most boosters don't let you fiddle with the tone as much, though. I used to think I wanted a clean booster, now I know I prefer an OD where I can cut the low end. I like the extra grit and compression you get from an OD versus a clean booster, too.

If there's grit and compression then it's distorting .

I suppose I can see the point more with a typical TS-type overdrive because they do that before they become very obviously distorted, and I know a lot of people do use them that way and seem to love them for that. I never have - I've tried it obviously, but I've never once liked the result. I always prefer to add at least a bit more distortion and not much extra level, if any - the blend of the pedal overdrive with the amp's drive always sounds much better than using the pedal clean and pushing the amp harder, to me.

To be honest, if I wanted a clean boost with EQ which can just about double as an overdrive - rather than the other way round - I'd probably look at something like an AC or RC Booster. I've never got on with any clean boost though - not even the (original) MXR Micro Amp, which was probably the one I disliked least...

James19931958

@ICBM thanks, very useful

57Deluxe

James19931958 said:

how do i get a good "sound" out of my Boss ds 1 distorion Pedal?

you run it in tandem with an EQ pedal...

Dave_Mc

ICBM said:

Dave_Mc said:

Most boosters don't let you fiddle with the tone as much, though. I used to think I wanted a clean booster, now I know I prefer an OD where I can cut the low end. I like the extra grit and compression you get from an OD versus a clean booster, too.

(a) If there's grit and compression then it's distorting .

(b) I suppose I can see the point more with a typical TS-type overdrive because they do that before they become very obviously distorted, and I know a lot of people do use them that way and seem to love them for that. I never have - I've tried it obviously, but I've never once liked the result. I always prefer to add at least a bit more distortion and not much extra level, if any - the blend of the pedal overdrive with the amp's drive always sounds much better than using the pedal clean and pushing the amp harder, to me.

To be honest, if I wanted a clean boost with EQ which can just about double as an overdrive - rather than the other way round - I'd probably look at something like an AC or RC Booster. I've never got on with any clean boost though - not even the (original) MXR Micro Amp, which was probably the one I disliked least...

(a) Absolutely, I never claimed it wasn't 

(b) Yeah. I have a little bit of gain dialled in on the pedal too, lol. I usually use a ts or sd1 for leads, so the extra compression is useful there. I find them a bit nasally for rhythm tones, I prefer a timmy for that- which sounds very similar to the RC boost you mentioned (at least if my Mooer clone is to be believed), just the Mooer sounds a little sweeter, while the timmy has a kind of snarl which I really like. As you said, why go for a clean boost when you can get ODs which do the same thing with more control, and which can double as an OD too?

bingefeller

@James19931958 I have to ask - you said you were wanting to buy a JMP and use it only on the clean.  Would you not be better using your Tubescreamer as an overdrive and using the JMP's dirty channel instead of a DS-1?

James19931958

@bingefeller ive heard that the jmp1's distotion sound isn't very good.  I thought, that the jmp1 was to "refine tone" and ive been getting on ok with the ds1.

ICBM

James19931958 said:

@bingefeller ive heard that the jmp1's distotion sound isn't very good.

Where did you hear that?

It seems to be good enough for Iron Maiden.

bingefeller

@james19931991  I've been on gear forums for a long time and I've never heard of anyone wanting to ise a JMP for a clean sound.  You'd be better with a solid state head for clen imo, something like a Crate Powerblock or a Quilter head.  

ICBM

bingefeller said:

@james19931991  I've been on gear forums for a long time and I've never heard of anyone wanting to ise a JMP for a clean sound.

Really? A lot of people do. I have for about 30 years, and I'm far from alone.

Marshall JMPs have a fantastic clean tone. A more well-known user would be John Frusciante, with a JMP Super Bass and Major.

bingefeller said:

You'd be better with a solid state head for clen imo

A clean valve amp - which does not always mean a Fender - still sounds quite a lot different from a solid-state amp usually.

And I like solid-state amps. (A lot of them, anyway.)

bingefeller said:

something like a Crate Powerblock

No. Unreliable and horrible-sounding. One of the worst amps I've ever heard.

professorben

ICBM said:

 said:

@james19931991  I've been on gear forums for a long time and I've never heard of anyone wanting to ise a JMP for a clean sound.

Really? A lot of people do. I have for about 30 years, and I'm far from alone.

Marshall JMPs have a fantastic clean tone. A more well-known user would be John Frusciante, with a JMP Super Bass and Major.

bingefeller said:

You'd be better with a solid state head for clen imo

A clean valve amp - which does not always mean a Fender - still sounds quite a lot different from a solid-state amp usually.

And I like solid-state amps. (A lot of them, anyway.)

bingefeller said:

something like a Crate Powerblock

No. Unreliable and horrible-sounding. One of the worst amps I've ever heard.

I think he means the JMP1 midi Preamp not the JMP amp, pre cursor to the JCM800.