Helix Native

Cabicular

There are now Vox and Aux presets in the Templates section if you don't normally venture there

Fretwired

The trial version comes with no presets - to get presets:

Click on the Helix logo at the bottom

Click on the 'Restore factory set lists'

Hey presto it unlocks the presets.

Drew_TNBD

It does come with presets. I'm running the trial version right now.

TimmyO

Fretwired said:

The trial version comes with no presets - to get presets:

Click on the Helix logo at the bottom

Click on the 'Restore factory set lists'

Hey presto it unlocks the presets.

I just installed Helix Native and it did that automatically - when I started it up in Logic it came up saying something like "you are starting Helix Native for the first time - installing presets" and there they were

Fretwired

Drew_TNBD said:

Don't take this the wrong way, but do you know anything about design?? There are many schools of thought, but one of the chief design decisions that tends to be made early on is whether something is skeuomorphic or non-skeuomorphic - plainly speaking, does it look like a real world object, or does it not look like a real world object.

Line 6 went for non-skeuomorphic. Amplitube went for skeuomorphic. So right there you're comparing two different schools of thought as if they were the same thing when they are not.

It's like comparing breaststroke to doggy-paddle and going "well they're both forms of swimming!! My comparison counts!"

I'm not trying to change your mind about the interface. I just don't think Amplitube is a good comparison. A better comparison would be Axe-Edit for the Axe FX, or maybe the Kazrog amp modellers, since they're also fairly non-skeuomorphic.

In terms of design, I *think* on the face of it that I prefer the current Helix editor sliders, because they're big and chunky and segmented. But I've not seen a full screen capture of the Helix Native interface yet to fully make my mind up. But they've clearly gone for a non-skeuomorphic minimalist design philosophy, and they're also tying it in with the hardware. The decisions make perfect sense to me.

Yes I know about design. I am expressing an opinion ... what I like you may not like. I don't like my wife's Mercedes as I don't like the dash and computer layout - petty I know. I like the way BMW does it - it's want I'm used to so I drive a BMW. I also like the way Amplitube has gone to major manufacturers and licensed and worked with them so when you call up a Fender amp it looks just like the amp and has the right Fender logo on it rather than some daft name. There's no logic ...

As I said at the top of the thread Line 6 are using the hardware interface - when designing for hardware like the Helix Line 6 had no choice but to adopt a non-skeuomorphic design. I get that. I also get the fact that those of you who have the hardware would expect to see a plugin that looks and works the same way.

If the tones are good I'll get used to it ..

TimmyO

Ooh - are those Vox presets new.... ? 

Fretwired

Cabicular said:

Because the amplitude interface (which I'm a big fan of btw) wouldn't work on a floor controller
It is what it is because of what it is

I actually said that when I made my original comment higher up the thread .. :-)

Cabicular

Fretwired said:

Cabicular said:

Because the amplitude interface (which I'm a big fan of btw) wouldn't work on a floor controller
It is what it is because of what it is

I actually said that when I made my original comment higher up the thread .. :-)

Sorry .. missed it in all the giddy excitement

Cabicular

TimmyO said:

Ooh - are those Vox presets new.... ? 

Yes and not available on the floor unit.
I think they are debating on whether to include them or not

Fretwired

TimmyO said:

Fretwired said:

The trial version comes with no presets - to get presets:

Click on the Helix logo at the bottom

Click on the 'Restore factory set lists'

Hey presto it unlocks the presets.

I just installed Helix Native and it did that automatically - when I started it up in Logic it came up saying something like "you are starting Helix Native for the first time - installing presets" and there they were

Mine didn't ... support told me to do that and hey presto .. the support is very good .. they must have everyone at Line 6 answering questions and fixing things ..

sweepy

Couldn't wait, so I fired it up and ran through some sounds, tbh it sounds pretty much like my Helix Rack worked flawlessly  I am looking forward to messing around with some of my nicer plugins with it as well

Fretwired

Some of the presets sound good .. looking promising ..

Cabicular

I'm currently scouringnthe office for a set of headphones !

ruoma

Man all this talk about design and none about tone, what a waste of thread..

Clarky

Fretwired said:

guitarfishbay said:

My eye finds horizontal bars harder to eyeball quickly than dials, or vertical bars, but it's not the end of the world. As noted it's in keeping with the HW 

We're guitarists .. we like thing designed in the 1950s (well some of us do). Most of my plugins have cool user interfaces .. the Helix is just pug ugly. End of ... if the plugin sounds good that's all that matters.

And I'm old school .. sliders mean nothing to me .... but if I can get a great tone in a few minutes then great.

:-)

does this mean there is a need for bakelite knob modelling?? lol

Drew_TNBD

ruoma said:

Man all this talk about design and none about tone, what a waste of thread..

Same toanz as the Helix and Helix LT. Anything those can do Helix Native can do as well. There is a 15 day trial also. Go grab that.

fretmeister

What are you fine people using as an interface?

I am not lugging my rack around just to get it close to the PC that is capable of running Native!

Cabicular

fretmeister said:

What are you fine people using as an interface?

I am not lugging my rack around just to get it close to the PC that is capable of running Native!

Apogee one for macbook
At the home studio.. all sorts of exotica...

TimmyO

fretmeister said:

What are you fine people using as an interface?

I am not lugging my rack around just to get it close to the PC that is capable of running Native!

I'm using my Apogee One (cos my Apollo Duet is boxed up out of the way)

If you just need a way to get instrument -> computer then a Line6 Sonic Port VX (the VX one works on Mac and PC too, the original version is just iOS) would be a nice compact option http://uk.line6.com/sonicport-audio-interface/sonicport-vx/ ;

sweepy

Presonus 16.0.2 for me, works an absolute treat with my Mac and Logic