Somebody isn't happy with Apple

stratman3142

Like many I follow Rick Beato's youtube videos on music. This one cracked me up.

btw. Every time I want to move photos or music to and from my wife's Iphone I also go into rant mode.

cruxiform

If he's so angry about the changes Apple make why does he keep buying their products? 

stratman3142

cruxiform said:

If he's so angry about the changes Apple make why does he keep buying their products? 

Strikes me as a man who's been pushed over the edge. He's not normally like that. It's like watching a university professor throw a complete wobbly.

octatonic

So he can't record from FaceTime and he finds iTunes confusing?
What an amateur.

How about how Apple have abandoned their pro users?
There is literally no computer that can be used in a pro recording studio without significant workarounds and a lot of extra outlay for no real advantage.

Either you go native and have to deal with latency or you go for Protools HD and have to either buy an iMac and use Thunderbolt expansion chassis or a Mac Pro, a computer from 2013, at a vastly inflated price and STILL have to use a Thunderbolt expansion chassis.

The Mac Pro towers to 2013 were so much better.
You could load them up with PCI cards and hard drives and they worked like a proper workstation.
Now you need a trashcan Mac Pro/iMac 27" plus a Sonnet/Magma Thunderbolt chassis plus a bunch of external drives.
It is a fucking pain in the ass and noisier than my old Mac Pro from 2010.

I have the 27" iMac 5K. It works fine despite being i7 (rather than Xeon). But it uses RAM best suited to a laptop and the fans spin up when the computer is working hard which is irritating when I have a mic on in same room, like when I am tracking vocals.
They are pitching their new iMac Pro at pro users- they better sort out the thermal management better than the current 5K iMac if they want people to take that product seriously.

They say they are releasing a pro workstation computer- frankly it cannot come sooner enough.
Loads of professional users are abandoning them and going for PC workstations and running Pro Tools HDX.

Axe_meister

There are a number of problems with Xeon despite high core count.
Frequency is often lower, as there is no GPU there is no quicksync.
The new Intel i9 platform is a mess with low number of PCIE lanes if using low core count processors (again no GPU as they are at their heart Xeons).
My hope is that Apple go AMD for the new pro machines (ok no quicksync) but 64 PCIE lanes no matter which version of threadripper.
Apple have both abandoned the compute illerate and the pro user.
You have to do things the Apple way.
The MacBook Pro is a bit of a mess to be honest. With adapters from hell if you want to add anything.
If you have the standard new MacBook you don't get thunderbolt so you can't use an older iMac as a display.

earwighoney

octatonic said:

How about how Apple have abandoned their pro users?
There is literally no computer that can be used in a pro recording studio without significant workarounds and a lot of extra outlay for no real advantage.

Dropping Firewire, Thunderbolt seemed to represent Apple growing lack of interest in consumers using their laptops, desktops for specialist audio/video applications.  

I imagine their profits are so high for iPhones, iPads etc that if they lost out their pro users it would barely dent their margins and the R&D required for these aspects are more bother than they are worth. 

Their OS's have kind of kind of gone the way of bloatware as well, lots of bells and whistles, and wtf was going on with the new MBP with the emoji panel type thing? 

axisus

Apple were amazing. Now they are ten shades of sh*te. 

Bygone_Tones

RTFM

at 5mins 11 secs what the hell is he doing? "how do I get this to play?" "is it playing?"

I'm no expert but I reckon you press the big play button that appears everytime you move the cursor over it.

Flink_Poyd

Theres nothing calling me back to Apple nowadays, I switched to Windows after 10 odd years of Macs and to be honest I haven't missed a thing so far. I have my iPhone and that's it where I used to have iPhone, iMac and Macbooks. Theres a lot f pointless rant in his video but a few true points yet however much he wants to go back to the Jobs era we cant. The mystique has gone from Apple for me and been replaced with shiny and white.

RandallFlagg

If you tune Apple Music off in settings then iTunes is extremely simple. I have just Library and Store. Easy.

bingefeller

Just use Skype then as suggested originally.  If he doesn't like iTunes he should find a different media player. Rick seems like a pretty smart guy but he is displaying a lack of common sense here.  

Danny1969

Why did he buy so many iPhone 4's  ?  

You gotta pick your battles and weapons these days .... I don't see the need to only use Apple or never use Apple ....  iPhone is still the best phone for working Muso's but a workstation PC is a better bet if your on hardware DSP cards in the studio and don't have an older Mac Pro 

I'm still on a G4 with Protools MIx and a Dell Precision Workstation with  ... both are over 10 years old but if it ain't broke why change it 

equalsql

Apple is banned in my house. Apart from the actual fruit...

Foster

I love my Macbook Pro, has served me well for years.

That said i'm quite impressed with my new work laptop - just a basic Lenovo running windows 10, it's actually a nice experience!

mellowsun

Dunno about music but for dev work the Mac still rocks.

I'm working with a colleague who's on Windows, I just do 'brew install xxx' but hours later he's still faffing with config and setting env vars 

stickyfiddle

I have an iphone, iPad and 2014 MacBook, and they all work together brilliantly well. But I have a Lenovo for work and couldn't imagine ever having to use Excel properly on a Mac, as it's awful (largely MS's fault, not Apple's, but still).

I'm a little concerned by the recent changes even at a consumer level though. The lack of headphone port on new iPhones is annoying, and losing MagSafe from the laptop seems a bit odd. Moving everything towards USB-C is good in the long run but shit right now.

 I also don't like the omission of the SD card slot. I can understand the logic of pushing towards wireless, but SD cards are used for all sorted if things that *arent* wireless, so it's really just forcing you into yet another dongle.

ICBM

earwighoney said:

I imagine their profits are so high for iPhones, iPads etc that if they lost out their pro users it would barely dent their margins and the R&D required for these aspects are more bother than they are worth.

It's this. Apple is no longer a computer company which also makes phones, it's a phone company which also makes computers.

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Stevepage

Never got the hype with Apple stuff. Sure when the iPhone came out it changed how people used their phones but, I wouldn't ever take a MacBook over a decent Windows Pc.

TheBigDipper

Stevepage said:

Never got the hype with Apple stuff. Sure when the iPhone came out it changed how people used their phones but, I wouldn't ever take a MacBook over a decent Windows Pc.

Each to their own, old chap. After a lifetime of Windows I went MacBook Pro about 2 years ago (iPhone and iPad about 5/6 years ago), mainly to run Logic, and I've never looked back. My wife runs a Win10 laptop (she's a very heavy Excel user) and she's always waiting for updates to finish, having to reinstall drivers, etc). I don't. Mind you, I do have the last of the old-style MacBooks with a proper HDD, a DVD slot and lots of other slots on the side. My mate has a thinner, later one with the SSD and it isn't so flexible - although it looks much sexier. 

wave100

I agree with him about iTunes - one of the most annoying programs on the planet. You shouldn't need to have to read the manual to get a media player to do what you want it to do. And if I bought a new Macbook Pro I would probably have to spend another 500 quid on dongles/adaptors before it would do what I need it to do. I recently switched my main music recording setup from PC to a late 2012 MBP, and there is no doubt that <some> aspects of it are better - I wanted something that I could use in a live situation and it does seem to be capable of that; I was worried about the power saving routines of a Win 10 laptop causing glitches at inopportune moments. Bluetooth MIDI seems to work well for sequencing iPad instruments, and the editor for my Moog Sub Phatty works better on the Mac. I did, however, have to buy a 4 year old machine to get the performance, ports and potential upgradability I wanted.

Gulliver

The heater in a Mk 1 Escort was one slider - how hot do you want it.

In my 2013 Focus, there's about 8 knobs and dials to control the heating and cooling.   How do I handle this crazy technical heater.

I FUCKING LEARNED!!  

I was sure you could record a facetime call, so I took 8 seconds and fucking googled it, and it's a piece of piss.