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I need to raise some cash for
some imminent pedal purchases. It never ends. an upcoming trip to Japan.
Prices include postage and paypal gift. Open to trades, but I would preferably do with the cash. If you've got any Meris somethings then hit me up, I want all three. Yeah you heard me right, give em here. I am now sorted for Miku, (and it's now simultaneously the worst
and best pedal I own) but I still really want a WMD Protostar.
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All SOLD FOR NOW
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Midnight Amplification Sentinel - £100
SOLD via Reverb
SS/BS Mini - £125
WITHDRAWN for now
Red Panda Context - £180
SOLD via eBay
M Design Haus Zeus 8444 - £15
SOLDMoog MF-104M (limited white edition) - £850
SOLD via Elektronauts
Acid Age Electronics Supercollider - £100
SOLD CBA Brothers - £300
SOLDDwarfcraft Happiness - £205
SOLD via Reverb
CBA Faves £60
SOLD via eBay
Swollen Pickle £110
SOLD via eBay
Bright Onion AB - £15
SOLD via eBay
Shift Line Force -
£125
TRADEDAdventure Audio Dream Reaper - £175
SOLDWMD Custom Super Fatman - £180
SOLD via Reverb
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By the way - silly question, does the A/B switch work with pedals? For example I'd use it with the intention of using Loop A for my normal effects chain, and a drone pedal into Loop B?
yeah I don’t think I’ll ever find such a monstrous sound in such a small enclosure. Would honestly love to keep it but I've got a custom commission muff on the way from 'Murica and should probably make room, and raise funds, for that.
I am honestly not sure about that. I guess in theory, If you have a loop system set up. You could send loop A to input A, loop B to B and then use this to alternate between them, but that’s it I think. Couldn’t have them both on at once. Could also be totally wrong.
Yeah the Supercollider is dirty as hell. Do you know if it sounds much like the Earthbound Audio version?
edit. Boobs? I meant knobs. My phone did me in.
@SecretMachine well, long story. Probably jeopardising my chances of moving on this pedal slightly, but fuck it - I'd rather be transparent and honest.
The guy is an unscrupulous rat and I could rant all day, so this might be long but please read on if you're interested in the full story and like to be informed in your potential future purchases.
You've probably heard about his terrible customer service, ridiculously slow shipping times and all that. I'd read about that but still gave him a chance and he did nothing but confirm all those complaints. Website said expect to wait up to 6 weeks for your pedal, but it took 4 months to ship out a simple pedal. He gave me a fake tracking number early, no communication or replies to any emails and when it arrived, it was different from the photos online (I/O and 9v jacks spread to 3 of the 4 edges, instead of all aligned on one edge, which was a massive inconvenience).
But anyway, that's a massive piss off, but not the worst thing in the world. I still had some respect for him at this point. I had ordered a Host Moon and I was absolutely loving the sounds from the pedal once it arrived. I sent it to Matt at M Design Haus to look into and clone the circuit and he immediately recognised the Host Moon as a Pharaoh clone. He took the time to trace out the circuit as much as he could, and track all the components and it was beyond a shadow of a doubt an almost part-for-part, carbon copy Blackarts Toneworks Pharaoh clone (it's obvious in hindsight if you even look at the two pedals together). All Mr Midnight had done was change like 4 or 5 fairly inconsequential components. No one else had traced it until then, so it wasn't known it was a muff-alike, let alone a straight up Pharaoh clone.
So I'm not against cloning pedals by any means... the Pharaoh itself is obviously a BMP circuit clone. But it was a fairly radical one. The Host Moon doesn't change anything substantial about the Pharaoh. Plus he's trying to sell it on a commercial scale, and the Pharaoh is a relatively recent and reasonably priced pedal still in production. Add that to the fact that he's claiming it's an original design - on the website he claims it's design was inspired by great bands like Om and Hum (which is just nasty hucksterism in hindsight). And not only all that but he lied to us when we asked about it's similarities with the Pharaoh (claiming it had 'Muff DNA but that's where the similarities end' which is of course nonsense knowing what we know now).
As great as it sounded, I felt ripped off. Snake oil. If I wanted a Pharaoh (or even a muffalike, which I wasn't aware it was before buying it) I would have bought one. Matt made me a Pharaoh clone that had a toggle on it to switch between the Host Moon and Pharaoh circuits and the differences are almost completely unnoticeable. One has a tiny wee bit more bass, and a ever so slightly different tone sweep.
I can't speak for the other pedals without 100% proof, but there are plenty of rumours about his other pedals being clones too. They all sound great, and they all look killer. No doubt about any of that. But I can't continue to support someone who is swindling consumers by passing off clones as his own work, and then lying and denying it instead of owning up to it. Plenty of great boutique companies make a living off selling clones, like Wren and Cuff or Abominable Electronics, but they generally add interesting new features and make it clear that they're clones.
Make you're own mind up, but I really don't think this guy is worth supporting by buying his stuff new. If you want to buy new, there are plenty of other talented and helpful pedal makers who are actually deserving of your support instead.
Probably worthy of its own PSA to be honest, as I'd like to spread the word about this guy for some consumer awareness. I still might post a topic here to spread the word, but I can't really be arsed with starting any pedal drama right now. As well deserved as all criticism and drama is in this case. Some people don't see any issues with what I've written above but it really doesn't sit right with me. I'd just hope people spread the word.
Here's some scans of the schems that Matt made of the Host Moon for anyone wanting to see the proof - https://imgur.com/a/WkE6F
But anyway, buy the Sentinel? Open to offers like!
Oh and I should add that the whole Ryan Adam vs Midnight thing became laughably hypocritical after discovering about the Host Moon. He got all upset because Ryan Adams stole one of his pedal designs and put it on a T-Shirt without crediting him, which is a very shitty thing to do... but maybe I'm crazy but I see a few tiny similarities to what he did to Mark from Black Art Toneworks... bit of a double standard.
With respect to the cloning. Obviously this dude is in some serious deep shit and working on the boundaries of copyright here and should be held accountable. Given how similar the circuits are, and that the pedal he's cloned is still in production, it's deplorable. Reminded me of the whole JHS pedals debacle.
yeah I really should update the ILF thread. But it’ll be preaching to the converted. Plus the "I told you so’s" will be unbearable. I gave Nic the benefit of the doubt, gave him a chance by ordering with him and he screwed me over and proved everyone there right.
Unfortunately I don’t think there’s anything to be done other than make people aware of it. He can’t really be held accountable but he can be named and shamed. I don’t think you can copyright circuits, could be wrong. And the Pharaoh itself is obviously heavily based off of EHXs circuit. But I totally agree it’s deplorable, It’s still a very shady and shitty thing to do, to try and pass of someone else’s work as your own for profit. Mark from BAT knows about it and confirmed it’s a clone, however he probably wisely decided not publicly put him on blast as he doesn’t really stand to gain anything. Fortunately Midnight has soiled his reputation in so many places that he’s not really stepping on anyone’s toes in terms of pedal sales.