More moon landings...?

Danny1969

The moons the obvious starting point to get anywhere else in the solar system .... it's not feasible to make a rocket big enough to escape the earths gravity and then get all the way to Mars .... a reusable shuttle to the Moon and back could be used to build a rocket on the moon and then take off from there in it's weak gravity ..... still something like a 4 month journey though even when Mars is at it's closest  

crunchman

Danny1969 said:

The moons the obvious starting point to get anywhere else in the solar system .... it's not feasible to make a rocket big enough to escape the earths gravity and then get all the way to Mars .... a reusable shuttle to the Moon and back could be used to build a rocket on the moon and then take off from there in it's weak gravity ..... still something like a 4 month journey though even when Mars is at it's closest  

Alternatively you build it in orbit from modular parts like they have done with the International Space Station.

I think the Moon would make more sense though.  Going EVA in orbit is not an efficient way of working, and would probably be riskier for the astronauts than doing it on the Moon.

Also, given the effects that prolonged zero G has on the body, a moon base might make more sense than the ISS for a lot of long term projects.  While the gravity is low, it at least has some gravity.

Jalapeno

Kilgore said:

Come on guys, surely his real intention is obvious:

Golf Course.

Alan Sheppard did it already

HAL9000

Jalapeno said:

Kilgore said:

Come on guys, surely his real intention is obvious:

Golf Course.

Alan Sheppard did it already

I just hope he’s paid Trump the green (green?) fees...

Kilgore

Jalapeno said:

Kilgore said:

Come on guys, surely his real intention is obvious:

Golf Course.

Alan Sheppard did it already

That's what I was alluding to. The fairways will go on for miles but the bunkers will be tricky.

tampaxboo

since we are talking Trump then it will be primarily a military purpose, with the space exploration bit tacked on to make it acceptable to the US public who will be paying for it and the scientists (US and international) who may have reservations about involvement in a purely military project.

i would imagine something to safeguard american observation and communication options, military and financial. satellites will become increasingly vulnerable to attack over the next few years.
NK is becoming more aggressive because burger-for-brains hot heads like Trump don't have the mental or emotional equipment to deal with international affairs like an mature statesperson.
he's provoking and inciting it infact, because every time NK responds, out of national pride (public expect a response to an insult broadcast on an international platform), Trump can then justify asking the public (a large proportion of whom think he is jesus) for more money for the military, at the expense of welfare and social policy (education/health).

i doubt there is much of value on the moon to mine. it's a beautiful thing and invaluable to earth for the role it played/plays in development/sustaining life on earth. but as a potential mineral cash cow it's not much more than a piece of earths crust bashed off a few million years after the earths formation.

stardust gave us most of the essential periodic elements (molecular building blocks), but much is 'homegrown', dependent on upwards vulcanic heat and downward surface pressure (including snowball earth era), organic matter infuencing climate, then that surface material being fed back into the surface.
the moon has the stardust side of that of that (plus a few billions years asterdoid strikes) but minus a lot of the valuable heavier metals/minerals, because when the earth was molten during early formation the iron and other heavy metals sunk to the core (which is why we have a magnetic core and magneospehere,and the moon doesn't).
which gives me an excuse to throw in my fav clip re theia-earth collision and subsequent moon formation. drs hartman and canup: 12m00s to 14m00s. (whole doc is superb).



anyway, military. but if any space exploration work comes as an add-on, that would be very nice.

btw, if you like watching launches the ESA launches a new galileo this evening. watch here for countdown fun times.
http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Navigation/Watch_the_launch_of_Galileos_19_22

Winny_Pooh

Does no one see the obvious? Transfer of public funds to private tech/military contractors. The US already has the largest military spending per capita in the world due to their obscenely corrupt but legal lobbying system.

Sassafras

What do you mean "more Moon landings"?
We all know there have never been any Moon landings.
 @siraxeman feel free to back me up on this.

crunchman

Sassafras said:

What do you mean "more Moon landings"?
We all know there have never been any Moon landings.
 @siraxeman feel free to back me up on this.

Why?

PC_Dave

crunchman said:

Sassafras said:

What do you mean "more Moon landings"?
We all know there have never been any Moon landings.
 @siraxeman feel free to back me up on this.

Why?

Don’t ask that!!!

siraxeman

Jalapeno said:

Kilgore said:

Come on guys, surely his real intention is obvious:

Golf Course.

Alan Sheppard did it already

Was they on the 'dark side' of the moon then? Or did the moon not glow back then? Looks very dull that night out in area 51. Proper dark night that was! Them there space suits glow brigher than teh moonz! 

siraxeman

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a8/4e/a3/a84ea3148b256f15a94f0c5060bfdd58--flat-earth-baller.jpg

Phil_aka_Pip

The moon's surface doesn't look like it is glowing bright enough to light up the earth (in that pic), because the photons that are hitting it from the sun are reflected in the general direaction of earth and not into Mr Astronaut's camera lens.

RandallFlagg

YES! here we go...

crunchman

PC_Dave said:

crunchman said:

Sassafras said:

What do you mean "more Moon landings"?
We all know there have never been any Moon landings.
 @siraxeman feel free to back me up on this.

Why?

Don’t ask that!!!

I meant why did @sassafras tag him.  Why? Why? Why?  We don't need another 30 page thread!

siraxeman

I promise I won't make it 30 pages...not by myself anyway. You all can do the same. And well, just don't argue with me when I clearly know a lot better!! Eeejits!! No man EVER went to the moon. Nor ever will they. 


Hey crunchman you can do your bit by not posting in this thread?? Don't even read it, and it will be like it never even exists...won't bother you then. how clever us that??

Kilgore

siraxeman said:

 No man EVER went to the moon. Nor ever will they. 

Jesus did. He walked on the Sea of Tranquility.

menamestom

PC_Dave said:

menamestom said:

Good news for out of work AstroNOTS!   

And there’s number one. 

Just to be clear, that’s a quote from @siraxeman
I don’t believe in AstroNOTS’s myself.  I believe they is a HOAX.    No AstroNOTS ever didn’t go to the moon, nor will they ever not do so.
Really, I just want to take PART and join in the RANDOM use of capitals

PC_Dave

Oh for fucks sake 

Winny_Pooh

Normal thread gone to hell again