WTB Nylon String Crossover guitar with cutaway

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Looking for a nice sounding nylon string acoustic. Plugged in sound is not important. In fact, if it doesnt have any pickup, thats fine too. Must have a crossover neck though, i.e. not quite as wide or fat as a full Spanish. Unless you are near to Oxford will probably need posting.
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  • NiteflyNitefly Frets: 2666
    There used to be a few at various price points in the Crafter range.  Sheehans used to be the importer, but they've gone now, so you might have to go second-hand.

    Did anyone bring the petits-fours?
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  • what budget?

    my recent research has revealed that many of these are made with a stiffer top than a classical, to avoid feedback on stage. 
    Nylon strings are extremely low tension, so need very light bracing to project a full sound, so be wary of heavier and over-braced tops
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  • ChalkyChalky Frets: 5932
    Happily pay several hundred for the right one. I tried a higher end Yamaha years ago and sold it on for exactly the reason you gave @ToneControl - it felt acoustically dead compared to my ancient Yamaha CGX111SC. Ideally I'd find one built purely for acoustic playing with no pickup.
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  • HerbHerb Frets: 1
    I believe Alhambra do a crossover. Maybe to order though.
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  • Hi Chalky - I have a Yamaha CGX122MCC Electro Classical Guitar, Natural that I'm looking to sell. PM me for details if you so wish.
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  • ChalkyChalky Frets: 5932
    Hi Chalky - I have a Yamaha CGX122MCC Electro Classical Guitar, Natural that I'm looking to sell. PM me for details if you so wish.
    Hi @Frank_Blank - by sheer coincidence I ordered one of those from PMT last week as they had it on a special at £199 delivered!  Seemed like a good price to me, but if yours is notably cheaper, please let me know. Thanks.
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  • Chalky said:
    Hi Chalky - I have a Yamaha CGX122MCC Electro Classical Guitar, Natural that I'm looking to sell. PM me for details if you so wish.
    Hi @Frank_Blank - by sheer coincidence I ordered one of those from PMT last week as they had it on a special at £199 delivered!  Seemed like a good price to me, but if yours is notably cheaper, please let me know. Thanks.
    has it arrived? what do you think of it?
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  • ChalkyChalky Frets: 5932
    edited January 2018
    @ToneControl ;I cancelled the order and bought @Frank_Blank's at a very good price and we managed to do the usual motorway services handover Top man!

    Its neck is slimmer than the full Classical but not as 'electric-like' as a proper crossover like a Cordoba Fusion for example. The biggest downer to me is that it doesnt have a truss rod like my much older Yamaha CGX110SC. Purely my fault in not checking the modern spec. So there is a limit on how low I can get the action to make it sweeter for playing chord melody. Other than that its a fine resonant guitar and I'm very pleased with it, thanks to @Frank_Blank !
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  • Chalky said:
    @ToneControl ;I cancelled the order and bought @Frank_Blank's at a very good price and we managed to do the usual motorway services handover Top man!

    Its neck is slimmer than the full Classical but not as 'electric-like' as a proper crossover like a Cordoba Fusion for example. The biggest downer to me is that it doesnt have a truss rod like my much older Yamaha CGX110SC. Purely my fault in not checking the modern spec. So there is a limit on how low I can get the action to make it sweeter for playing chord melody. Other than that its a fine resonant guitar and I'm very pleased with it, thanks to @Frank_Blank !
    A pleasure Sir, hope it brings you much enjoyment.
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  • Chalky said:
    @ToneControl ;I cancelled the order and bought @Frank_Blank's at a very good price and we managed to do the usual motorway services handover Top man!

    Its neck is slimmer than the full Classical but not as 'electric-like' as a proper crossover like a Cordoba Fusion for example. The biggest downer to me is that it doesnt have a truss rod like my much older Yamaha CGX110SC. Purely my fault in not checking the modern spec. So there is a limit on how low I can get the action to make it sweeter for playing chord melody. Other than that its a fine resonant guitar and I'm very pleased with it, thanks to @Frank_Blank !
    is it a flat fingerboard?
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  • ChalkyChalky Frets: 5932
    Chalky said:
    @ToneControl ;I cancelled the order and bought @Frank_Blank's at a very good price and we managed to do the usual motorway services handover Top man!

    Its neck is slimmer than the full Classical but not as 'electric-like' as a proper crossover like a Cordoba Fusion for example. The biggest downer to me is that it doesnt have a truss rod like my much older Yamaha CGX110SC. Purely my fault in not checking the modern spec. So there is a limit on how low I can get the action to make it sweeter for playing chord melody. Other than that its a fine resonant guitar and I'm very pleased with it, thanks to @Frank_Blank !
    is it a flat fingerboard?
    Yes it is.
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  • Chalky said:
    Chalky said:
    @ToneControl ;I cancelled the order and bought @Frank_Blank's at a very good price and we managed to do the usual motorway services handover Top man!

    Its neck is slimmer than the full Classical but not as 'electric-like' as a proper crossover like a Cordoba Fusion for example. The biggest downer to me is that it doesnt have a truss rod like my much older Yamaha CGX110SC. Purely my fault in not checking the modern spec. So there is a limit on how low I can get the action to make it sweeter for playing chord melody. Other than that its a fine resonant guitar and I'm very pleased with it, thanks to @Frank_Blank !
    is it a flat fingerboard?
    Yes it is.
    what's the action like anyway? I might get one as a variation against my Avalon crossover nylon
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  • Yamaha ntx for the win
    The Bigsby was the first successful design of what is now called a whammy bar or tremolo arm, although vibrato is the technically correct term for the musical effect it produces. In standard usage, tremolo is a rapid fluctuation of the volume of a note, while vibrato is a fluctuation in pitch. The origin of this nonstandard usage of the term by electric guitarists is attributed to Leo Fender, who also used the term “vibrato” to refer to what is really a tremolo effect.
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  • ChalkyChalky Frets: 5932
    Chalky said:
    Chalky said:
    @ToneControl ;;I cancelled the order and bought @Frank_Blank's at a very good price and we managed to do the usual motorway services handover Top man!

    Its neck is slimmer than the full Classical but not as 'electric-like' as a proper crossover like a Cordoba Fusion for example. The biggest downer to me is that it doesnt have a truss rod like my much older Yamaha CGX110SC. Purely my fault in not checking the modern spec. So there is a limit on how low I can get the action to make it sweeter for playing chord melody. Other than that its a fine resonant guitar and I'm very pleased with it, thanks to @Frank_Blank !
    is it a flat fingerboard?
    Yes it is.
    what's the action like anyway? I might get one as a variation against my Avalon crossover nylon




    The action is perfectly fine, just not as low as my 'extra super low action' I have on my old one, where I flattened out the neck with the truss rod and also shaved and lowered the bridge saddle right down.  It also has an extra 1/8 inch wider fretboard.  Its quite a bit louder than my old one too.
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  • Chalky said:
    Chalky said:
    Chalky said:
    @ToneControl ;;I cancelled the order and bought @Frank_Blank's at a very good price and we managed to do the usual motorway services handover Top man!

    Its neck is slimmer than the full Classical but not as 'electric-like' as a proper crossover like a Cordoba Fusion for example. The biggest downer to me is that it doesnt have a truss rod like my much older Yamaha CGX110SC. Purely my fault in not checking the modern spec. So there is a limit on how low I can get the action to make it sweeter for playing chord melody. Other than that its a fine resonant guitar and I'm very pleased with it, thanks to @Frank_Blank !
    is it a flat fingerboard?
    Yes it is.
    what's the action like anyway? I might get one as a variation against my Avalon crossover nylon




    The action is perfectly fine, just not as low as my 'extra super low action' I have on my old one, where I flattened out the neck with the truss rod and also shaved and lowered the bridge saddle right down.  It also has an extra 1/8 inch wider fretboard.  Its quite a bit louder than my old one too.
    I've ordered one. Let's see if they can actually source one
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  • streethawkstreethawk Frets: 1526
    Chalky said:
    Chalky said:
    Chalky said:
    @ToneControl ;;I cancelled the order and bought @Frank_Blank's at a very good price and we managed to do the usual motorway services handover Top man!

    Its neck is slimmer than the full Classical but not as 'electric-like' as a proper crossover like a Cordoba Fusion for example. The biggest downer to me is that it doesnt have a truss rod like my much older Yamaha CGX110SC. Purely my fault in not checking the modern spec. So there is a limit on how low I can get the action to make it sweeter for playing chord melody. Other than that its a fine resonant guitar and I'm very pleased with it, thanks to @Frank_Blank !
    is it a flat fingerboard?
    Yes it is.
    what's the action like anyway? I might get one as a variation against my Avalon crossover nylon




    The action is perfectly fine, just not as low as my 'extra super low action' I have on my old one, where I flattened out the neck with the truss rod and also shaved and lowered the bridge saddle right down.  It also has an extra 1/8 inch wider fretboard.  Its quite a bit louder than my old one too.
    I've ordered one. Let's see if they can actually source one
    Did you end up getting one? I'm looking at this as an option.
    AmberGuitar quality parts for Fender and Gibson
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  • ChalkyChalky Frets: 5932
    @streethawk - if you are keen to get one let me know and you can have mine in exchange for some switches and pots that I know you sell. Its got a case so postage would only cost you how much your favourite postal or courier service charges.
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  • streethawkstreethawk Frets: 1526
    Chalky said:
    @streethawk - if you are keen to get one let me know and you can have mine in exchange for some switches and pots that I know you sell. Its got a case so postage would only cost you how much your favourite postal or courier service charges.
    Pm'd.  :)  
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 6010
    The second one they sent was OK. First one had unfinished frets
    Nothing like the sound of a handmade £5k classical of course, but hardly a fair comparison

    Beware the sharp edge on the top (where your right forearm rests), I found it very uncomfortable.
    I tried buying a "guitar sleeve", but in the end a cheap £8 or so arm rest from India via ebay did the trick, and made it look more expensive. Set up and pickup are fine for the price
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  • robinbowesrobinbowes Frets: 2141
    @Chalky ; @streethawk Did you guys do a deal on the Yammy? I'm looking for something like that...

    R.
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  • streethawkstreethawk Frets: 1526
    @Chalky ; @streethawk Did you guys do a deal on the Yammy? I'm looking for something like that...

    R.
    No, I'm looking at other things now.
    AmberGuitar quality parts for Fender and Gibson
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  • robinbowesrobinbowes Frets: 2141
    @Chalky ; @streethawk Did you guys do a deal on the Yammy? I'm looking for something like that...

    R.
    No, I'm looking at other things now.
    @Chalky - do you still have the guitar?

    R.
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  • steviebee74steviebee74 Frets: 18
    Hi, 

    I have one of these: 

    https://www.guitarfromspain.com/en/crossover/519-manuel-rodriguez-crossover-walnut.html

    Mine is not for sale but sounds like it would probably tick all your boxes if you can find one. I got it in "Guitar Guitar" (Birmingham) so might be worth a look for you. 

    There's a used one in Spain here: 

    https://reverb.com/uk/item/6375020-manuel-rodriguez-c11-cutaway-walnut-2016-satin-natural

    Cheers. 
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  • petef45petef45 Frets: 1
    edited September 2018
    I have a Hanika custom 58PF if you’re interested. Short scale, radiused fingerboard and lower profile neck: Hanika 58 PF Classical Guitar. Gloss Solid Spruce Hanika Curved / radiused Fingerboard. Curved Fingerboard Hanika Scale length. 640mm Hanika Nut Width. 48mm Flat neck profile 1:20,4 mm. I’m selling to raise funds for a 000 12 fret. Doesn’t have a cut away body, so may be a deal breaker.
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