Helix routing question

smigeon

TimmyO said:

Sporky said:

I think it's doable if you have a mono monitor feed and mono ambient mic.

I was thinking the same as I read the thread- any reason those *need* to be stereo? 

No reason. I guess I was just exploring the outer limits of the Helix’s routing flexibility. 

TimmyO

Cool.

Is the boundary mic to get some room atmosphere in the in-ears? 

smigeon

Yes, that’s it. Stereo would seem more important for the room ambience than for the feed from the PA mixer, if only one or the other were possible. But in an ideal world, stereo for both would be good! 

I have a feeling that the full scenario could be achieved with the help of some hardware patching and use if the headphone monitoring facility on the Helix. But the manual doesn’t seem (to me, at least) to be absolutely clear on some things. No matter, I found it an interesting thought experiment...

Cabicular

smigeon said:

Yes, that’s it. Stereo would seem more important for the room ambience than for the feed from the PA mixer, if only one or the other were possible. But in an ideal world, stereo for both would be good! 

I have a feeling that the full scenario could be achieved with the help of some hardware patching and use if the headphone monitoring facility on the Helix. But the manual doesn’t seem (to me, at least) to be absolutely clear on some things. No matter, I found it an interesting thought experiment...

Unless you are wearing the boundary mic stereo is weird in IEM
you move but ambient noise doesn’t 

smigeon

Cabicular said:

smigeon said:

Yes, that’s it. Stereo would seem more important for the room ambience than for the feed from the PA mixer, if only one or the other were possible. But in an ideal world, stereo for both would be good! 

I have a feeling that the full scenario could be achieved with the help of some hardware patching and use if the headphone monitoring facility on the Helix. But the manual doesn’t seem (to me, at least) to be absolutely clear on some things. No matter, I found it an interesting thought experiment...

Unless you are wearing the boundary mic stereo is weird in IEM
you move but ambient noise doesn’t 

That's interesting and kind of makes sense - based on experience I assume? I have experience of neither mono nor stereo in that situation - but without thinking about it much, assumed stereo would inherently be better.

Presumably, you'd want stereo for the feed from the PA mixer, though?? 

John_A

90% of the time PA mixes are done in mono.  Unless everyone was stood dead centre the stereo wouldn't work

smigeon

John_A said:

90% of the time PA mixes are done in mono.  Unless everyone was stood dead centre the stereo wouldn't work

We’ve always done our PA monitoring (speakers, not IEM) with multiple channels - e.g. more of my voice and my guitar in the monitor speaker nearest to me. I assumed people would do similar with IEMs???

Cabicular

smigeon said:

John_A said:

90% of the time PA mixes are done in mono.  Unless everyone was stood dead centre the stereo wouldn't work

We’ve always done our PA monitoring (speakers, not IEM) with multiple channels - e.g. more of my voice and my guitar in the monitor speaker nearest to me. I assumed people would do similar with IEMs???

Most iems use 2 channels in mono
you can have the vocal mix and the band mix then mix between them with a blend control on the receiver