Chapman Guitars at NAMM

Freebird

themeinside said:

A big 'chappening' was promised at 8pm tonight- turns out it is a range of UK made versions of their models for around £3.5-4k. I don't think even Fender or Gibson can truly justify guitars of this price, but the fact Chapman think they can is somewhat mind boggling. When there are amazing artisan makers- including many fellows on this forum- who would make you anything you like for less.

Does he make them himself? Maybe that is where the added value comes from  

richardhomer

Someone was told me this week how their grandfather has just bought (outright - as in ‘cash’) a Vauxhall Mokka in gold. My comment was I’d like to meet the person who sold it to him - as clearly they are the best sales person who’s ever lived.

Chappers could probably do with recruiting them....

carlos

steer said:

OK - so other comapnies make guitars at a same price. Thanks for pointing that out. Where are the threads questioning these other companies buisness methods and the critique of them?

Yet again a Chapan thread, where not one single person has seemingly even seen one of these guitars in the flesh, let alone played one..

people shit on gibson all the time. The others have won the right to charge that much.

Musicman20

One thing I don’t understand is that the connections to the Andertons lot (and the bands of Chapman with Rob etc) are links to people who aren’t really (in my opinion) proper ‘songwriters’ or famous for writing amazing riffs or songs. Sure, some of them like Pete are amazing guitarists, but Dorje? I mean they are ok but to me if they didn’t have the connection to Rob etc, they’d never get off the ground. I’m not their target market and I don’t want to be harsh, but I don’t really hear ‘songs’, just techy riffs. They need a different vocalist. 

I dunno. I can’t see that they’ve toured their arses off and tried gaining momentum in the normal way. It just seems like an after thought. 

sted

RMJ said:

sted said: hi

I don't get the USP for them, they are basically re-badged luthier built guitars based on other peoples designs (strats, tele's, LP's and explorers) They are basically the guitar equivalent of remould tyres.

Don't piss about. You know you're having one. Signature model probably. Reckon a gaudy ML2 would suit you down to the ground

A sted signature model? Is that a really loud guitar that sounds permanently angry? lol!

rossi

They look good to me .I cant buy one but I like that tele .If people didnt buy expensive guitars in large quantities quite a few shops would disappear  seeing as how they are full of expensive guitars .Some one must be bloody buying them so why not a Chapman too.Personally I would buy a Martyn Booth  but what do I know/ I just play .

tony99

richardhomer said:

Someone was told me this week how their grandfather has just bought (outright - as in ‘cash’) a Vauxhall Mokka in gold. My comment was I’d like to meet the person who sold it to him - as clearly they are the best sales person who’s ever lived.

Chappers could probably do with recruiting them....

dafuq is a vauxhall mokka? a guitar?

GoldenEraGuitars

steer said:

lonestar said:

axisus said:

Ho hum, another bash Chapman thread, how tiresome. 

I don’t see any bashing, tbh. At £3500 people are entitled to ask questions. It’s not pocket change.

Hes going from Korean mass manufacturing where the most expensive model is about £1100(?) to UK handmade at triple the cost. That’s going to open up the floor to questions.

So... how many of his young and dedicated following will put up that sort of money? How many players over the age of 30 will go for one (given that they should have more knowledge of the market and possibly more income)? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t *care* as such but it’s a strange move.

At £3500 you could get..

Fender CS
Gibson CS
Nik Huber
Feline
Collings
PRS Custom
Suhr


What would be quite interesting to know is if they are going to have to start selling their 15 per month quota to trade customers in order to shift them?

Then again, maybe this is all a load of crap and they’ll do really well? Too early to say I guess

OK - so other comapnies make guitars at a same price. Thanks for pointing that out. Where are the threads questioning these other companies buisness methods and the critique of them?

Yet again a Chapan thread, where not one single person has seemingly even seen one of these guitars in the flesh, let alone played one...

You own a Chapman... don’t you?

Philly_Q

tony99 said:

richardhomer said:

Someone was told me this week how their grandfather has just bought (outright - as in ‘cash’) a Vauxhall Mokka in gold. My comment was I’d like to meet the person who sold it to him - as clearly they are the best sales person who’s ever lived.

Chappers could probably do with recruiting them....

dafuq is a vauxhall mokka? a guitar?

Correct.  And I've got an Austin Allegro 12-string.

usedtobe

I like that eggle electric!  Couldn’t stretch to 3 grand or whatever, though..

antifash

Ooooof! Some ugly ass guitars! 

themeinside

From the Chapman Guitars Twitter:

'Day 2 at the @NAMMShow thenammshow is a wrap! We’ve released the British Standard series which until today went under the code name ‘Yorkshire Puddings’. Thanks to everyone who stopped by the stand and to everyone watching our live videos and posts. We love you all very much'

'Yorkshire' eh? Does that narrow down the luthiers for anyone?

Bridgehouse

themeinside said:

From the Chapman Guitars Twitter:

'Day 2 at the @NAMMShow thenammshow is a wrap! We’ve released the British Standard series which until today went under the code name ‘Yorkshire Puddings’. Thanks to everyone who stopped by the stand and to everyone watching our live videos and posts. We love you all very much'

'Yorkshire' eh? Does that narrow down the luthiers for anyone?

Aunt Bessie?

EricTheWeary

themeinside said:

From the Chapman Guitars Twitter:

'Day 2 at the @NAMMShow thenammshow is a wrap! We’ve released the British Standard series which until today went under the code name ‘Yorkshire Puddings’. Thanks to everyone who stopped by the stand and to everyone watching our live videos and posts. We love you all very much'

'Yorkshire' eh? Does that narrow down the luthiers for anyone?

They’re called that because they knew they’d get battered when the guitars were launched. 

digitalscream

steer said:

OK - so other comapnies make guitars at a same price. Thanks for pointing that out. Where are the threads questioning these other companies buisness methods and the critique of them?

Yet again a Chapan thread, where not one single person has seemingly even seen one of these guitars in the flesh, let alone played one...

Some of us have followed Rob from the beginning, and been consistently disappointed with CGs with every exaggerated relaunch. I was totally on board with him to begin with, but the continual "This is THE BEST!" announcements, followed by actual products which can at best be described as "average", grate a bit after a while. There's no reason to think that this one will be any different, although I'd hazard a guess that you'll never meet somebody who owns one other than Lee Anderton himself (it should be noted that I think Lee's a top bloke and obviously a very savvy businessman, which is why this seems a little odd on the face of it).

Add to that the way he's treated a number of his business partners and endorsees (well, ex-endorsees after they got fed up with the "OOOO, shiny!" approach to endorsee support and buggered off), and it's not difficult to see why there's a resounding "Meh!" at this announcement.

mbe

They should have the kitemark instead of infinity at the 12th fret.

Strat54

Plectrum said:

Strat54 said:

And I'm still wondering who buys Patrick Eggle guitars at £3k....but they do. They were the 'poor mans' PRS back in the 90's but they seemed to have re-invented themselves post bankruptcy as a prestige brand priced above PRS and Tom Anderson. I mean swamp as and bog oak with no finish for £3095...really?? 

https://worldguitars.co.uk/shop/patrick-james-eggle-96-hss-swamp-ash-white-with-bog-oak-neck-17636/

So who knows, maybe the U.S players will buy into the whole British built Chapman thing. Good luck.

You seem to be confused between the original Patrick Eggle Guitars (which are still going) and Patrick James Eggle. The man himself left the original company well before it's eventual demise and he has no connection with the old company even though they trade under his name. These days Patrick mainly builds acoustics.

No not confused.....but I think you might be as he no longer builds acoustics.

http://www.eggle.co.uk/the-guitars

Flink_Poyd

mbe said:

They should have the kitemark instead of infinity at the 12th fret.

Or a Yorkshire Pudding 

Drewman_Guitars

I personally believe that this is a pure brand elevation exercise, they want to co-habitat with Suhr, PRS and collectors choice Gibson instruments, they want the players who buy them to make this their 3rd guitar, they know they can’t stray too far from the allowable designs at this price, it’s as close to a safe risk as they are prepared to go.... where guitars are made (geographically) has always been fiercely contested but when you’re as good at marketing as Lee Anderton clearly is, you can make it seem hugely relevant. They’ve never released sales figures, and they won’t for this line either but let’s see what happens next....

meltedbuzzbox

I don't get all the drama.
Many forum favourites effectively churn out clones with a different name on the headstock.
This is much the same thing except nobody has played one of these guitars.