Guitar Magazine - Lazy J10 Review

Hattigol

Lebarque said:

@Hattigol ; Haha! I know what you're saying, but I'm not sure I agree.

Fender's Squier, Mexican, American, Custom Shop, Masterbuilt etc. lines allow a large company to cater for different wallets and aspirations by offering different quality guitars at different price points. If you play a masterbuilt and a squier side-by-side, you can tell which is better quality (cue the comments!). There's a demonstrable difference between handwired/PCB, mass-produced/handbuilt etc (not necessarily in tone though).

Has the quality of Lazy J's declined as Jesse has got other people to do bits and bobs for him due to high demand? Not that I'm aware of. As far as I can tell, he is just expanding his business by entrusting outsourcing to other skilled people who live up to his standards. So if the high quality of the amps has been maintained and there is no demonstrable difference, there is no justification for a price adjustment in my eyes. As somebody else said, he's not moved production to Outer Mongolia or something, and he does the final assembly and testing himself as far as I can tell.

Question - answer honestly:

Would you pay more for an amp that you knew was handbuilt by Jesse himself?

If yes (and come on, it is a yes), my point is valid isn't it?

Lebarque

@Hattigol ; Personally, no, unless it was proved that the other modeIs were inferior. For me, it's more about the recipe of parts and circuit tweaks that Jesse has brought to the classic 5E3 design. For example, if I took the exact design/parts and got one of the respected amp builders on here to wire it up, I have no doubt it would be just as good.

menamestom

Lebarque said:

 For example, if I took the exact design/parts and got one of the respected amp builders on here to wire it up, I have no doubt it would be just as good.

You wouldn’t need to.  I’l pretty sure they already know all the usual 5E3 mods, it’s bread and butter to all good amp makers.  The DIY community has been doing pretty much all those tweaks for years.  

But yeah they would be just as good.

hotpickups

Hattigol said:

Lebarque said:

@Hattigol ; Haha! I know what you're saying, but I'm not sure I agree.

Fender's Squier, Mexican, American, Custom Shop, Masterbuilt etc. lines allow a large company to cater for different wallets and aspirations by offering different quality guitars at different price points. If you play a masterbuilt and a squier side-by-side, you can tell which is better quality (cue the comments!). There's a demonstrable difference between handwired/PCB, mass-produced/handbuilt etc (not necessarily in tone though).

Has the quality of Lazy J's declined as Jesse has got other people to do bits and bobs for him due to high demand? Not that I'm aware of. As far as I can tell, he is just expanding his business by entrusting outsourcing to other skilled people who live up to his standards. So if the high quality of the amps has been maintained and there is no demonstrable difference, there is no justification for a price adjustment in my eyes. As somebody else said, he's not moved production to Outer Mongolia or something, and he does the final assembly and testing himself as far as I can tell.

Question - answer honestly:

Would you pay more for an amp that you knew was handbuilt by Jesse himself?

If yes (and come on, it is a yes), my point is valid isn't it?

Absolutely not. There'll be no difference 

Fishboy7

I would love to try try a Lazy J,, .. but used prices seem steep,

I paid only 1200 gbp for my Victoria Double Deluxe and I simply can't conceive there could be a better tweed amp than that ,,,,

JerkMoans

Fishboy7 said:

I would love to try try a Lazy J,, .. but used prices seem steep,

I paid only 1200 gbp for my Victoria Double Deluxe and I simply can't conceive there could be a better tweed amp than that ,,,,

It’s odd. I had a Flynn 5e3 that was great. But I always wondered whether there was something better... then I acquired my Cornell Voyager which is sublime. But the LJ itch was still there... Prisoner of all the hype? Maybe. But an awful lot of people seem to agree that they deliver that little extra... something.

So one came up on eBay last week at a keen price, my offer was accepted and ... when it arrived it was fecked.

So now I have to wait a little longer to scratch that itch while the good Mr Hoff works his Jedi voodoo magic.

We’ll see  

Where are you based? Maybe you could come and have a play once it’s back in my sweaty paws.

hotpickups

The j20 is still my go to amp up against some really other tasty amps. It's just me and my taste I guess. Shared by many of course

clarkefan

interstellar said:

martinw said:

nationalmojo said:

As to whether Jesse builds the amps himself or not - YES HE DOES.

Not all of them.

its all a bit tiresome/british this knocking the Lazy J brand, he is a success which is a good thing

Lame. Nobody knocked anything, it is what it is. Yes it is good.