Natural relicing

SteveRobinson

What's caused this? I've seen a few 2015 Gibsons with a bit of longitudinal crazing but this is pretty severe!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192572288870

poopot

SteveRobinson said:

What's caused this? 

A can of compressed air by the looks of it!.

richardhomer

Looks like sinkage into the grain, rather than just checking, in some photos. 

Still a cool looks cool though - Firebirds are my favourite ‘shape’ guitars.

ESBlonde

Could be it's sat on a stand or hung on a wall in the full sun or above a radiator for far too long. That is very severe for a 3 year old guitar. The cold can suggestion would be another alternative.

iain.reverb

SteveRobinson said:

What's caused this? I've seen a few 2015 Gibsons with a bit of longitudinal crazing but this is pretty severe!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192572288870

Ive seen this in a few older Gibsons and was told it was from either incorrectly dried wood ie moisture was released after finishing, or the Lacquer mix was incorrectly. You occasionally see it on Les Paul headstocks

SNAKEBITE

How would compressed air cause this?

Gassage

In fairness it proves the Gibson cracks were starting to appear way before bankruptcy 

poopot

SNAKEBITE said:

How would compressed air cause this?

If you hold a can of “air” (the keyboard cleaning air duster type) upside down and squirt it, the propellant gushes out and it’s very cold, sub zero in fact... the rapid cooling causes the nitro finish to contract suddenly and “check”...

this body was sprayed up last week (Steve can verify, he sold me the paint) and the cold air method used to get the “checking” effect.

rexter

The crazing on the sides of the body almost looks like a reaction in the lacquer! Something similar happened to a body I had issues with ages ago. Too many coats of paint too soon before the previous ones had gassed off. Horrible crazy paving look, nothing to do but sand back to wood.

The horizontal checking across the body looks fairly normal to me... for a 40 year old guitar though! My old acoustic has the same looking checking.

IvisonGuitars

poopot said:

SNAKEBITE said:

How would compressed air cause this?

If you hold a can of “air” (the keyboard cleaning air duster type) upside down and squirt it, the propellant gushes out and it’s very cold, sub zero in fact... the rapid cooling causes the nitro finish to contract suddenly and “check”...

this body was sprayed up last week (Steve can verify, he sold me the paint) and the cold air method used to get the “checking” effect.

Nice job @poopot  

SNAKEBITE

@poopot Thanks for that, appreciate the info.

poopot

miserneil said:

Nice job @poopot  

Ta!.

the Mrs put a stop to this method:)

Corvus

Bizarre crackle effect around the end grain, that can't be normal wood or lacquer shrinking. Looks like someone's tried freeze spray or something similar as said, or an odd paint reaction.

WezV

I don't think its freezer checking or compressed air which tends to get localised spots where the can is aimed.

It reminds me of moisture damage, where a guitar has been stored in a damp environment and expanded significantly. almost looks like its delaminating on the walnut, but it could just be pale wood

WezV

poopot said:

 

the Mrs put a stop to this method:)

I got a separate freezer for the workshop when my dad was upgrading... but I could really do with a chest freezer instead for the set/trough neck stuff

SteveRobinson

I use the big freezer in my local off-licence.

I am on good terms with the off-licence

poopot

WezV said:

I got a separate freezer for the workshop when my dad was upgrading... but I could really do with a chest freezer instead for the set/trough neck stuff

We inherited a perfectly good chest freezer in the garage when we bought the house... guess what was the first thing in the skip!!!! 

i can get a lp in the freezer but have to take everything including the shelves out!!!!

WezV

SteveRobinson said:

I use the big freezer in my local off-licence.

I am on good terms with the off-licence

where is this off licence, might go buy some ice cream  

rossi

I just let my wife's cold stare  when I bring in another guitar  do all the relicing .She could  freeze a  charging lion dead in seconds  just by looking  and certainly  crack a perfect finish in minutes .Fortunately  she also has a lovely smile .

guitars4you

SteveRobinson said:

I use the big freezer in my local off-licence.

I am on good terms with the off-licence

regular visitor then Steve ????????????????

munckee

poopot said:

miserneil said:

Nice job @poopot  

Ta!.

the Mrs put a stop to this method:)

Good choice of pie, I prefer a proper pastry to puff but you can't knock steak and ale.  Good job with the compressed air too.