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NGD - Gibson ES-330

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  • bbill335bbill335 Frets: 1389
    I'm having serious casino/330 GAs lately. It has to be a 16-fret neck join tho for me, the other ones don't look right for some reason!
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  • duotoneduotone Frets: 995
    Looks fantastic.  Enjoy it!
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  • KeefyKeefy Frets: 2320
    I looked at that picture and a little bit of wee came out on its own.

    And for the record, I like Guitar Guitar, had some good deals from them.
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  • NelsonPNelsonP Frets: 3408
    bbill335 said:
    I'm having serious casino/330 GAs lately. It has to be a 16-fret neck join tho for me, the other ones don't look right for some reason!
    There are a couple of Gary clark casino on eBay at the moment. They have Gibson pickups, grovers etc so a decent upgrade over the std one. Can't figure out how much they are worth though. One went for £300 a couple of weeks back. Another went for £650 and another at £435.
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  • chris78chris78 Frets: 9378
    NelsonP said:
    bbill335 said:
    I'm having serious casino/330 GAs lately. It has to be a 16-fret neck join tho for me, the other ones don't look right for some reason!
    There are a couple of Gary clark casino on eBay at the moment. They have Gibson pickups, grovers etc so a decent upgrade over the std one. Can't figure out how much they are worth though. One went for £300 a couple of weeks back. Another went for £650 and another at £435.
    I brought the one at £435 and ended up with a 330 so I’m flipping it. I’ll admit to relisting at a “speculative price” but if any fretboarder wants it for what I paid, give me a shout. I’ve not listed in classified as I’m lousy with pics on this site.
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  • GagarynGagaryn Frets: 1553
    Very nive - a 330 is pretty much my only GAS these days. Must resist...
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  • bbill335bbill335 Frets: 1389
    NelsonP said:
    bbill335 said:
    I'm having serious casino/330 GAs lately. It has to be a 16-fret neck join tho for me, the other ones don't look right for some reason!
    There are a couple of Gary clark casino on eBay at the moment. They have Gibson pickups, grovers etc so a decent upgrade over the std one. Can't figure out how much they are worth though. One went for £300 a couple of weeks back. Another went for £650 and another at £435.
    I love the look and sound of them but I much prefer playing Fender-type necks and I'm in the throes of a tele obsession at the mo. Maybe in the future I'll pick a casino up.
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  • NelsonPNelsonP Frets: 3408
    chris78 said:
    NelsonP said:
    bbill335 said:
    I'm having serious casino/330 GAs lately. It has to be a 16-fret neck join tho for me, the other ones don't look right for some reason!
    There are a couple of Gary clark casino on eBay at the moment. They have Gibson pickups, grovers etc so a decent upgrade over the std one. Can't figure out how much they are worth though. One went for £300 a couple of weeks back. Another went for £650 and another at £435.
    I brought the one at £435 and ended up with a 330 so I’m flipping it. I’ll admit to relisting at a “speculative price” but if any fretboarder wants it for what I paid, give me a shout. I’ve not listed in classified as I’m lousy with pics on this site.
    How do you rate the Gary Clark casino vs a pucker 330? What are the similarities and differences?
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  • chris78chris78 Frets: 9378
    NelsonP said:
    chris78 said:
    NelsonP said:
    bbill335 said:
    I'm having serious casino/330 GAs lately. It has to be a 16-fret neck join tho for me, the other ones don't look right for some reason!
    There are a couple of Gary clark casino on eBay at the moment. They have Gibson pickups, grovers etc so a decent upgrade over the std one. Can't figure out how much they are worth though. One went for £300 a couple of weeks back. Another went for £650 and another at £435.
    I brought the one at £435 and ended up with a 330 so I’m flipping it. I’ll admit to relisting at a “speculative price” but if any fretboarder wants it for what I paid, give me a shout. I’ve not listed in classified as I’m lousy with pics on this site.
    How do you rate the Gary Clark casino vs a pucker 330? What are the similarities and differences?
    I’m not sure it’s fair to call a 330 “pucker.” 60s casinos are fantastic guitars in their own right.

    Main differences for me:

    Poly vs nitro. Nitro isn’t necessarily better as my 330 is a touch sticky at the moment and will be till I’ve worn it in properly. I’m used to nitro guitars though and I like the feel once they wear.

    Pickups. The GCJ has Gibson pickups, but they’re hotter than the 330.

    The GCJ has much more bottom end acoustically. The 330 is more balanced for me, but that’s personal taste. The 330 is a bit louder acoustically.

    The finishing on the 330 isn’t perfect- typical Gibson. The GCJ is flawless.

    Im going to be honest and say I prefer the colour scheme of the GCJ. It’s full on gorgeous.

    I got the 330 as I think £2k on 3 years interest free is a top deal, but there isn’t a lot in it. I also played an epi 339 side by side with a Gibson, and again, not a lot in it. Both Gibson’s feel better in the hand and sound better to my ears plugged in. As always, is the Gibson worth 4-5 the price? Of course not. Personally though, I’m happy to waste my money on higher end guitars. It’s an expensive hobby, buy YOLO etc.
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  • chris78chris78 Frets: 9378

    bbill335 said:
    NelsonP said:
    bbill335 said:
    I'm having serious casino/330 GAs lately. It has to be a 16-fret neck join tho for me, the other ones don't look right for some reason!
    There are a couple of Gary clark casino on eBay at the moment. They have Gibson pickups, grovers etc so a decent upgrade over the std one. Can't figure out how much they are worth though. One went for £300 a couple of weeks back. Another went for £650 and another at £435.
    I love the look and sound of them but I much prefer playing Fender-type necks and I'm in the throes of a tele obsession at the mo. Maybe in the future I'll pick a casino up.
    I’ve had a tele obsession for about 25 years
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  • chris78chris78 Frets: 9378

    bbill335 said:
    NelsonP said:
    bbill335 said:
    I'm having serious casino/330 GAs lately. It has to be a 16-fret neck join tho for me, the other ones don't look right for some reason!
    There are a couple of Gary clark casino on eBay at the moment. They have Gibson pickups, grovers etc so a decent upgrade over the std one. Can't figure out how much they are worth though. One went for £300 a couple of weeks back. Another went for £650 and another at £435.
    I love the look and sound of them but I much prefer playing Fender-type necks and I'm in the throes of a tele obsession at the mo. Maybe in the future I'll pick a casino up.
    I’ve had a tele obsession for about 25 years
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  • NelsonPNelsonP Frets: 3408
    chris78 said:
    NelsonP said:
    chris78 said:
    NelsonP said:
    bbill335 said:
    I'm having serious casino/330 GAs lately. It has to be a 16-fret neck join tho for me, the other ones don't look right for some reason!
    There are a couple of Gary clark casino on eBay at the moment. They have Gibson pickups, grovers etc so a decent upgrade over the std one. Can't figure out how much they are worth though. One went for £300 a couple of weeks back. Another went for £650 and another at £435.
    I brought the one at £435 and ended up with a 330 so I’m flipping it. I’ll admit to relisting at a “speculative price” but if any fretboarder wants it for what I paid, give me a shout. I’ve not listed in classified as I’m lousy with pics on this site.
    How do you rate the Gary Clark casino vs a pucker 330? What are the similarities and differences?
    I’m not sure it’s fair to call a 330 “pucker.” 60s casinos are fantastic guitars in their own right.

    Main differences for me:

    Poly vs nitro. Nitro isn’t necessarily better as my 330 is a touch sticky at the moment and will be till I’ve worn it in properly. I’m used to nitro guitars though and I like the feel once they wear.

    Pickups. The GCJ has Gibson pickups, but they’re hotter than the 330.

    The GCJ has much more bottom end acoustically. The 330 is more balanced for me, but that’s personal taste. The 330 is a bit louder acoustically.

    The finishing on the 330 isn’t perfect- typical Gibson. The GCJ is flawless.

    Im going to be honest and say I prefer the colour scheme of the GCJ. It’s full on gorgeous.

    I got the 330 as I think £2k on 3 years interest free is a top deal, but there isn’t a lot in it. I also played an epi 339 side by side with a Gibson, and again, not a lot in it. Both Gibson’s feel better in the hand and sound better to my ears plugged in. As always, is the Gibson worth 4-5 the price? Of course not. Personally though, I’m happy to waste my money on higher end guitars. It’s an expensive hobby, buy YOLO etc.
    Thanks, that's really good to know.
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  • AndyRAndyR Frets: 158
    Interesting reading about 330 vs Casino, @chris78, many thanks. I only found out the "history" between the two the other day after buying the 330! I knew about the Casino and The Beatles etc, but didn't know much about 330.

    I will admit to playing quite a few Beatles riffs while I was trying it out in GG Epsom, but I'd never looked that close into the relationship between the guitars, and I just played those cos it "sounded right".

    I tend to go "bluddy hell this is magic" over a guitar, buy it if the price seems worth it to me, and then wonder "wtf have I bought?!?" afterwards! lol

    When I learnt about the 330/casino relationship I did worry a bit whether I could have got this much fun for a quarter of the price!! Didn't worry me that much, I have Epiphones in the loft (Les Paul, SG) that I used to gig with, that I replaced with Gibsons when I got interested in playing again - whenever I've got the Epiphones out since then, I always put them back after cleaning and set-up... I just prefer the feel and vibe of the Gibsons. Even with their various issues.

    =========

    I'm absolutely LOVING this guitar. With 11s on, it's a different beast altogether. It was good before, but 11s have really made it wake up. Just waiting for delivery of some spacers to raise the pickups and I think it'll possibly be a "ok, put all the others away for a bit" guitar then.

    Last time that happened to me was a 2012 Les Paul Traditional (Lucy). @bbill335, I was always a strat-player (20-odd years). Got into teles, then SGs, LPs, got a 335 I love but played less often. I always went back to Fenders, specially strats. When I got the LP Trad that all went out the window - I stopped playing everything else. When I got the next guitar (a 61 RI SG), I had to put Lucy away so that I'd actually play the new one!!

    It's kind of balanced out again, I love all my guitars, and Lucy is probably equal #1 with a particular strat, but it doesn't COMMAND my attention like it did the first year or so I had it.

    However, it is that LP, Lucy, that saved me from buying one of the R8s. I'd been playing my Feline a lot, but now I was drooling over the keyboard, trying to justify one of the R8s... having the same conversations with my missus that probably everyone else was... she was even going "how much do you want it? buy one if you want it enough" ... the solution was to get Lucy out and play her for 5-10 minutes. Whenever I did, the GAS evaporated and I was able to chuckle at the other folks suffering from it!

    Now, this 330 - I haven't wanted to play anything else since Saturday (and that includes Lucy). The last few extra R8s appeared over the last day or two - they do look tasty - and I really don't care. The missus was worried I might have regrets I'd bought the 330 before the R8s ran out... nope! :-)
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  • NelsonPNelsonP Frets: 3408
    AndyR said:

    I tend to go "bluddy hell this is magic" over a guitar, buy it if the price seems worth it to me, and then wonder "wtf have I bought?!?" afterwards! lol

    I do that. A quick google reveals that it is a thing and its called buyers remorse.

    "In the phase before purchasing, a prospective buyer often feels positive emotions associated with a purchase (desire, a sense of heightened possibilities, and an anticipation of the enjoyment that will accompany using the product, for example); afterwards, having made the purchase, they are more fully able to experience the negative aspects: all the opportunity costs of the purchase, and a reduction in purchasing power."

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  • AndyRAndyR Frets: 158
    NelsonP said:
    AndyR said:

    I tend to go "bluddy hell this is magic" over a guitar, buy it if the price seems worth it to me, and then wonder "wtf have I bought?!?" afterwards! lol
    I do that. A quick google reveals that it is a thing and its called buyers remorse.

    "In the phase before purchasing, a prospective buyer often feels positive emotions associated with a purchase (desire, a sense of heightened possibilities, and an anticipation of the enjoyment that will accompany using the product, for example); afterwards, having made the purchase, they are more fully able to experience the negative aspects: all the opportunity costs of the purchase, and a reduction in purchasing power."

    Hehe - that's interesting. I rarely end up feeling any actual "remorse", certainly not in this case, but I'm often pleasantly surprised by what I've bought when I actually do the research that some might have done first!...

    I'm kind of "HA! GUITAR! ME BUY" in the shop
    (or sometimes it's a more relaxed Homer-Simpson-esque "mmmm, guitar")

    Because of this, I never touch a guitar whose price-tag I'm not prepared to go to, there and then... just in case the bluddy thing speaks to me! And I'm a lot happier if my missus is there too - she knows when the Andrew-Guitar relationship looks like a good un, and she's also able to ring alarm bells if necessary.
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  • I couldn't afford one (well probably on the 3 year interest free I could) so I bagged this instead. A Japanese Riviera from '83. A beaut!!


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  • I couldn't afford one (well probably on the 3 year interest free I could) so I bagged this instead. A Japanese Riviera from '83. A beaut!!


    Oasis-tastic :)
    The Assumptions - UAE party band for all your rock & soul desires
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  • JalapenoJalapeno Frets: 6398
    Excellent swaggage !
    Imagine something sharp and witty here ......

    Feedback
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  • JezWyndJezWynd Frets: 6115
    I couldn't afford one (well probably on the 3 year interest free I could) so I bagged this instead. A Japanese Riviera from '83. A beaut!!


    Fabulous!
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