re: Complaints that "It's all a scam"

Kilgore

Dimed said:

Kilgore said:

This is a nice place. If you take your foot off the accelerator a bit, you might hang around long enough to find that out. 

My membership is up to you? Also your opinion is okay but mine isn't? At least I am making points to discuss rather than attacking people.

Not at all. I've never played a saxophone and to be honest I probably wouldn't trust my own opinion when it comes to guitars.
 A simple "Hi guys" might have been nice, but that's your call to make. See you around. 

p90fool

Sax pest. 

barry2tone

TeleMaster said:

munckee said:

roberty said:

I don't think anyone is arguing that all guitars should cost the same, regardless of the quality of materials and craftsmanship

Fake news. 

Fake news is fake news. It’s huuuge. 

 
Needs a bullet-in.

Blueingreen

Dimed said:

Why is it so easy for people, musicians and non musicians alike, to see that if you use better materials and a better craftsman, you get a better saxophone, one that plays better and sounds better, and that that saxophone should legitimately cost more, and so hard for them to see when it comes to electric guitars?

We live in a market economy.  Value is determined by what people are willing to pay.

"Better materials and a better craftsman" won't automatically improve value.  They will only do so if the market agrees these resources have been used wisely, and in a way that improves the product enough to justify the additional cost.

Products will have an optimal use of resources,  a point beyond which devoting more expertise, time, or higher quality materials is negative because the market thinks that any improvements achieved are too marginal to justify the extra cost.  I don't know much about saxophone prices, playability etc but it seems likely that this optimal use of resources is arrived at at a lower price point for electric guitars than for saxophones.

sunshinewelly

think you may have joined the wrong forum

you need the Neck Board  or the Reed Board 

Shrews

I'm not sure I agree with the OP. I bought this for £200 back in my teens and I still can't get a tune out of it

skunkwerx

Any saxophone cost is worth this video alone... 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GaoLU6zKaws 

Fretwired

Calling Mr Ban-Hammer .... troll alert

sev112

In the trumpet sphere, you can tell / hear the “better” players because you can actually hear them getting the horn to resonate , even at low volume.  And a good 
layer can “feel” that as they play, at which point they are working in unison with the instrument.

now it’s more difficult to do that with a cheaper instrument but it can be done

what became interesting in the past 5 years or so is what plastic trumpets have become.  If I bought s good plastic trumpet for circa £125 I can play it much better than a Yamaha costing much more.

so I disagree with the OP, as the value is in the hands of the person playing it

robgilmo

Does this mean more expensive condoms get you better sax? 

prowla

What's this thread about?

downbytheriver

On second thoughts, I can’t be bothered. 

UnclePsychosis

OP's premise is flawed.

Two guitars - 

Custom shop PRS with a plain top
Custom shop PRS with a AAA flame top

Which costs more? 
Which is the better sounding guitar?

Octafish

Just make sure you have consent before putting a sax in your mouth or you could find yourself on the sax offenders register .

UnclePsychosis

downbytheriver said:

This thread has made me very angry. The op made a legitimate point and invited discussion, which is surely what the forum exists for. He’s then been attacked (only term I can think of that suits the actions observed) by some people who appear to think that their view of the forum’s nature and purpose somehow outweighs the opinions of others. 

Why is it that the attackers are always people I’ve never heard of? It’s also fairly obvious that they have failed to understand the original post. Or perhaps they’ve not even read it, just scented blood and waded in. Either way, tossers. 

-behave. 

OP is paying the inevitable price for his first post being an aggressive piece of trolling and has now followed it up by a second thread on similar lines. 

downbytheriver

Behave? See ya. 

Mark1960

Just a guess, but I think volume of sales probably has something to do with it. I've no idea how many electric guitars are produced each year compared to Saxophones, but it's most likely many times more electric guitarts...more choice!

horsehead

sev112 said:

because you can actually hear them getting the horn 

Oo-er and indeed, missus

skunkwerx

lonestar said:

Wow. Within 2 discussions that you’ve posted (out of 2) we have already concluded that you..

a) need a girlfriend 
b) should really move out of your mums house and...
c) introduce yourself properly, and start your fretboard life again.



Everyone deserves a second chance. Wait, is your real name Mason?

We can get girlfriends and houses... 

But we still just a bunch of blokes who hang around on the internet discussing our sordid fetish ;p 

Wazmeister

downbytheriver said:

On second thoughts, I can’t be bothered. 

Billiant