re: Complaints that "It's all a scam"

Dimed · November 2018

Why is it so easy for people, musicians and non musicians alike, to see that if you use better materials and a better craftsman, you get a better saxophone, one that plays better and sounds better, and that that saxophone should legitimately cost more, and so hard for them to see when it comes to electric guitars?

terada · November 2018

And again? Really?

terada · November 2018

also. It’s pronounced “saxo-ma-phone”

joetele · November 2018

terada said:

also. It’s pronounced “saxo-ma-phone”

Really wish I could LOL and Wis this

thecolourbox · November 2018

He's bringing saxy back

GoldenEraGuitars · November 2018

Wow. Within 2 discussions that you’ve posted (out of 2) we have already concluded that you..

a) need a girlfriend
b) should really move out of your mums house and...
c) introduce yourself properly, and start your fretboard life again.

Everyone deserves a second chance. Wait, is your real name Mason?

Jimbro66 · November 2018

Click bait

Kilgore · November 2018

This is a nice place. If you take your foot off the accelerator a bit, you might hang around long enough to find that out.

Dimed · November 2018

lonestar said:

Wow. Within 2 discussions that you’ve posted (out of 2) we have already concluded that you..

a) need a girlfriend
b) should really move out of your mums house and...
c) introduce yourself properly, and start your fretboard life again.

Everyone deserves a second chance. Wait, is your real name Mason?

It's good to see that the people who engage in ad hominem(sp?) attacks disagree with me.

mudslide73 · November 2018

Welcome home Mr FX

Handsome_Chris · November 2018

@Dimed , if you give this place a chance you'll find it's alright. Obviously a few people on here are having a back case of the Mondays. I'm definitely not saying that they are being dicks, because being a dick by bullying a new member would be a bit poor.

Dimed · November 2018

Kilgore said:

This is a nice place. If you take your foot off the accelerator a bit, you might hang around long enough to find that out.

My membership is up to you? Also your opinion is okay but mine isn't? At least I am making points to discuss rather than attacking people.

Dimed · November 2018

Please discuss the topic or move on rather than complaining about me and bullying me. Thanks

Hattigol · November 2018

Handsome_Chris said:

@Dimed , if you give this place a chance you'll find it's alright. Obviously a few people on here are having a back case of the Mondays. I'm definitely not saying that they are being dicks, because being a dick by bullying a new member would be a bit poor.

If you're not saying it, then I am.

They are being dicks.

And this guy is too saxy for this forum....

Sassafras · November 2018

Dimed said:

Why is it so easy for people, musicians and non musicians alike, to see that if you use better materials and a better craftsman, you get a better saxophone, one that plays better and sounds better, and that that saxophone should legitimately cost more, and so hard for them to see when it comes to electric guitars?

I'm not sure I agree with all this. My guitars are made from the finest materials known to man but I'm buggered if I can get them to sound like a saxophone.

roberty · November 2018

I don't think anyone is arguing that all guitars should cost the same, regardless of the quality of materials and craftsmanship

munckee · November 2018

roberty said:

I don't think anyone is arguing that all guitars should cost the same, regardless of the quality of materials and craftsmanship

Fake news.

meltedbuzzbox · November 2018

lonestar said:

Wow. Within 2 discussions that you’ve posted (out of 2) we have already concluded that you..

a) need a girlfriend
b) should really move out of your mums house and...
c) introduce yourself properly, and start your fretboard life again.

Everyone deserves a second chance. Wait, is your real name Mason?

http://m.quickmeme.com/img/a8/a87c852995e2310bf7416a7e3d64ec28fcb9ccb2a3da03a4a09fa93021d6fc6e.jpg

Bridgehouse · November 2018

Actually, I think the OP raises a good question - which is worthy of serious debate.

It's very true to say that for some instruments - and the sax is a good example - the price you pay and the quality you get makes a big difference to the quality of the output.

And I can also see that if it's true for one instrument, then why not another? Well, fundamentally, I think that where the rule applies (more expensive equals better) the quality of the instrument is fully determined by the effort and quality of materials. In a sax, the type of metal, how its formed, how accurate its dimensions are, the quality of the seals, the quality of the keys and pads and all of the other elements make for an instrument which is much easier to play and get a better tone out of.

Playing sax involves breath - which means moisture. It also means air-tightness, resonance and very very accurate tolerances for pitch.

Guitar is a very different beast. Typically, the key components are accuracy of the scale length, fret positions and the nut and saddles, along with pickups which output correctly. You can get a playable, usable and reasonably good instrument with a lot less accuracy and materials quality than you'd need with a sax. Similarly you can upgrade components to improve on the playability and sound.

Also, with guitar, there are other elements in the final output - amp, pedals, pick, string choice etc.

Thing is, with a sax - just getting a note out of it in the first place is a big thing - not so with a guitar. Getting a sax which a good player can get the most out of usually means higher quality materials and more accurate tolerances - a really good player will hit the buffers and capability on a cheaper instrument well before a really good player will say that a guitar just isn't of sufficient quality for their playing. Of course - they will eventually - and this can then mean either upgrades, or a new one.

It's the same for any woodwind instrument. I played flute (wooden) for a long time - I had a hand turned African Blackwood instrument which cost more than an R8, and it was considered middle of the road. It was good - but there were still limitations due to the turning accuracy of the bore, the shape of the bore and the quality of the wood - from time to time some notes just didn't ring clearly. I also had a plastic one which cost 1/5 of the price - it was pretty much junk for playing complex stuff - it just didn't have the capability to resonate how it needed to to get the tone.

TeleMaster · November 2018

munckee said:

roberty said:

I don't think anyone is arguing that all guitars should cost the same, regardless of the quality of materials and craftsmanship

Fake news.

Fake news is fake news. It’s huuuge.

GoldenEraGuitars · November 2018

Dimed said:

lonestar said:

Wow. Within 2 discussions that you’ve posted (out of 2) we have already concluded that you..

a) need a girlfriend
b) should really move out of your mums house and...
c) introduce yourself properly, and start your fretboard life again.

Everyone deserves a second chance. Wait, is your real name Mason?

It's good to see that the people who engage in ad hominem(sp?) attacks disagree with me.

Just yanking your crank

lighten up

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