Cheap FRFR speaker

Stevepage

I've been thinking of going for the Headrush Frfr speaker cab but, I just wondered is there any thing cheaper out there that's still worth looking at? Second hand is fine too.

It'll be to use with my Helix LT for monitoring myself 

FarleyUK

I think the Headrush FrFr is basically a re-badged Alto TS312. If that's the case, the Alto was a good speaker, but there are certainly better speakers out there; personally, I'd see if you can get a used Yamaha DXR10. They're very, very good indeed and shouldn't be too much more.

EDIT: Just researched it some more, and I assume you mean the 12" version? Lots of good feedback on it, saying it's a great speaker, and seems to be the best 'bang for buck' FrFr speaker.... so much so, I've actually just ordered one myself!

sw67

RCF ART 310 is what I have used for the last 6 months and 20 or so gigs. Sounds great on a pole behind me. Was £240 inc 3 year warranty from thomman. Its loud - volume on speaker just under half and 11 o'clock on helix. I plug my helix direct to speaker via xlr then xlr from speaker through to desk
https://www.thomann.de/gb/rcf_art_310_a_mk_iii.htm?gclid=Cj0KCQiA4aXiBRCRARIsAMBZGz_xGa3wyk5Vrt0Oblx5HH1cW3kYkruJx521kFlqyW_Kjtgsl37WmkMaAtWIEALw_wcB

fretmeister

If it's only in the house - then consider a studio monitor.

Yamaha HS7 is a good bit of kit. 1 will do if you play in mono.

Plenty loud enough for at home, and works great with Helix.

Stevepage

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I just ordered a TS312 from gear4music. Only £260, bargain. Will give opinions tomorrow 

kennedydream1980

The headrush speaker is the same enclosure as the alto TS312 but the dsp has been re-voiced by headrush for use with modellers.

FarleyUK

.....just ordered a second Headrush speaker for stereo FrFr.

Damn you, @Stevepage . It's all your fault.

BTW - GAK have the Headrush 12" for £250..... and it's meant to be better for modellers, as the post above me mentions.

Stevepage

Well I'll see how I get on with the Alto today. I can always return it and get the Headrush. Wish I found it sooner

Stevepage

Well I'm very pleased with the Alto. Got the exact tone I'm after with it and I'm looking forward to using it with the band next month. 

This has just sealed my decision to move on from a valve head and 4 x 12

bloodandtears

are there other guitarists in the band? do they use 4x12??

if so, you "may" struggle to compete...  I found the monitoring to personally focussed whereas the other guitarists 4x12 filled to room... I guess I should have tried a pole mount..

Stevepage

Yeah he's using a 4 x 12 but is considering switching to modelling too. I'll be taking a line out from the Alto into the PA too so I'm not too concerned 

Dontgiveupyourdayjob

I bought the same Alto in December, as at the time it was £40 cheaper than the Headrush and seemed virtually identical. Very happy with it so far, no regrets whatsoever. Not gigged it yet but rehearsed with both guitar and bass it sounds great. Never tried any of the more premium FRFR/PA speakers with my Amplifire, but don't feel any great need to upgrade.

sw67

put it on a short pole so waist height - makes a huge difference. We put a bit of my guitar in bass players monitor at some venues but mostly just feels like my amp

FarleyUK

Just played wiith the Headrush speaker - sounds great! Very impressed for £250.

nickp

I've just bought a hamaha dxr 10 on ebay for £220 + postage and that had a lot of love on here.  I have only played through it once with a sensible set up but sounds good

NelsonP

Laney IRT-X worth a look.  There were some going for a good price on here recently. 

Gadget

The thing that's bothering me about a lot of these FRFR cabs, is the way they are constantly being described by their various manufacturers as 'tuned for guitar'.

If it's really FRFR, how can it be? Surely by definition it's supposed to be providing a flat response, no matter what is fed into it, otherwise it's not FRFR?

andyoz

A true FRFR speaker is actually marketing BS

They definitely don't exist at the cheap end of the spectrum

If you're going down this route, don't put your signal thru a poxy speaker lads.

You'll end up hating it and going back to normal amps.

John_A

andyoz said:

A true FRFR speaker is actually marketing BS

They definitely don't exist at the cheap end of the spectrum

If you're going down this route, don't put your signal thru a poxy speaker lads.

You'll end up hating it and going back to normal amps.

I use my helix through a DB B-hype 8 (£130) as a personal monitor as it's loads lighter and smaller than my DXR10 which these days sits at home.  Cheap speakers don't have to sound rubbish

andyoz

Double post

Gadget

What's your recommendation?