Les Paul Guts

Schnozz

If I was to take everything out of my Les Paul Custom and re-do the electronics, what kind of kit/quantities would you recommend?

Bumblebee capacitors are £69!! Which seems crazy to me and I don't know which Les Paul years these apply to.

I'm not a modder and I've kept everything stock before, so this is new ground for me.

Does anyone have any advice? I think I'm going to go for Bare Knuckle Rebel Yells, or a Dimarzio PAF and Super Distortion.

Keefy

Schnozz said:

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Bumblebee capacitors are £69!! Which seems crazy to me and I don't know which Les Paul years these apply to.

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Yes. Yes it is.

robgilmo

Why are they so expensive?

springhead

Unless you really want them for cosmetic reasons you don't need repro bumble bee caps. They don't sound any different to any other cap of the same value. 

Kittyfrisk

Schnozz said:

If I was to take everything out of my Les Paul Custom and re-do the electronics, what kind of kit/quantities would you recommend?

Bumblebee capacitors are £69!! Which seems crazy to me and I don't know which Les Paul years these apply to.

I'm not a modder and I've kept everything stock before, so this is new ground for me.

Does anyone have any advice? I think I'm going to go for Bare Knuckle Rebel Yells, or a Dimarzio PAF and Super Distortion.

Just because it has a stripey jacket, means nothing 
The caps myth is just that.
Read this thread, @ICBM & @p90fool are your friends.
Edit : sausage fingers, forgot to input thread     http://thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/155939/

ICBM

robgilmo said:

Why are they so expensive?

Because fools and money...

You don't really need to pay more than 69p for a guitar cap, let alone £69. You can pay a little more and get some that are easier to handle, or look nicer if that's what you want, but they all sound exactly the same as long as they're the same value.

Danielsguitars

I've just used a fake 58 bumblebee cap because it was for the look on a vintage spec junior, it was £13.50 and works just great

I also have luxe ones going in another guitar but I'd only use them if it's the look you want

Just get decent caps and you'll be good to go, i also use cheap pio Russian caps, they just look better to me rather than small cheap ones

IvisonGuitars

One email to @sixstringsupplies can save you a world of hassle, Ed will be able to advise everything you need

Schnozz

ICBM said:

robgilmo said:

Why are they so expensive?

Because fools and money...

You don't really need to pay more than 69p for a guitar cap, let alone £69. You can pay a little more and get some that are easier to handle, or look nicer if that's what you want, but they all sound exactly the same as long as they're the same value.

Cool, so I'm thinking the usual x4 CTS pots, Switchcraft jack and switch and I'll have a look around for x2 caps

Is that all I need in addition to the pickups and maybe some shielding paint? 

Schnozz

IvisonGuitars said:

One email to @sixstringsupplies can save you a world of hassle, Ed will be able to advise everything you need

Thank you!

robgilmo

ICBM said:

robgilmo said:

Why are they so expensive?

Because fools and money...

You don't really need to pay more than 69p for a guitar cap, let alone £69. You can pay a little more and get some that are easier to handle, or look nicer if that's what you want, but they all sound exactly the same as long as they're the same value.

I remember a lot of this carry on within the audiophools circles, re-capping amps with exotic caps then sitting there wondering if it really was their amp or their speaker cable supports that didn't sound right. Ive always thought expensive caps were the ones that cost nearly a quid but were within spec and stayed within spec. 

Danielsguitars

One recommendation i can offer is the svt cts pots from crazyparts have the best taper I've yet come across

I was using linear volumes and log tones before, most cts log pots just seem to be all gone by about 7 or 8

ICBM

Schnozz said:

Cool, so I'm thinking the usual x4 CTS pots, Switchcraft jack and switch and I'll have a look around for x2 caps

Is that all I need in addition to the pickups and maybe some shielding paint? 

You don't need shielding paint - if you use all-shielded cable the guitar will be well-shielded without needing any additional steps. If you have caps where the outer foil is marked, connect that end to the tone control not the volume control and it will marginally reduce noise too.

tony99

I'd liked to get some aged hardware for mine, basically bridge, the stop thing, and the humbucker covers

Who can I speak to about that please?

p90fool

tony99 said:

I'd liked to get some aged hardware for mine, basically bridge, the stop thing, and the humbucker covers

Who can I speak to about that please?

Crazyparts?

"The Stop Thing" is my new favourite phrase.

tony99

p90fool said:

tony99 said:

I'd liked to get some aged hardware for mine, basically bridge, the stop thing, and the humbucker covers

Who can I speak to about that please?

Crazyparts?

"The Stop Thing" is my new favourite phrase.

Sorry, I don't know the technical term, the bit in between the bridge and the lower humbucky.

Would I need any particular specifications? I'm a gibson les paul 2010 tradish.

Thanks for your help by the way.

crunchman

ICBM said:

robgilmo said:

Why are they so expensive?

Because fools and money...

You don't really need to pay more than 69p for a guitar cap, let alone £69. You can pay a little more and get some that are easier to handle, or look nicer if that's what you want, but they all sound exactly the same as long as they're the same value.

Orange drops are good for that.  Nice long legs made of thick wire that bend nicely and stay where you put them.  Still under £2 if you look around.

sixstringsupplies

Thanks for the recommendation @IvisonGuitars ;

As others have mentioned your best bet is orange drops. Reliable and not too expensive 

If you’re proficient with a soldering iron you’ll be better off buying a DIY wiring kit (that’s half the fun anyway)

Depending in your model you’ll have to determine whether it’s long or short shaft pots you need. 

riffpowers

Does @shugz ; still post on here?? That'd be what Id get.

Kittyfrisk

^ http://thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/14533/
Sadly Shugz has quit the loom business 

shugz

Heard my name been taken in vain

@sixstringsupplies is the man I'd recommend. I no longer make them. Fun while it lasted, poor but happy etc etc etc. I will be doing a 335 loom soon right enough but I know that customer well, me.

I don't tend to post on here much and the PMs notifications are a bit random but if your lives are really that empty and want to stay even more bored than you are already then I'm on Instagram (one_z_two_ls). Feel free to ignore (probably for the best...)

Best wishes 
Hugh