Painted yourself into a corner?

AntonHunter

Cheers, sounds good @WiresDreamDisasters ;

joetele

LastMantra said:

Pretty rare for a band to sound better live than recorded. 

Sorry but I feel like this is a complete oversimplification. Tons of bands I've seen sound better live than recorded. Yes you've got the benefit of atmosphere etc at a gig which helps, but some bands are a lot heavier or more fast-paced live, or they add extra elements, and it leaves the original recordings sounding flat. Or there are bands whose albums do sound brilliant but their live show is even better. I think studio and live are two different things which are unfair to compare anyway. No ill will intended, but I just can't agree. 

dogload

joetele said:

LastMantra said:

Pretty rare for a band to sound better live than recorded. 

Sorry but I feel like this is a complete oversimplification. Tons of bands I've seen sound better live than recorded. Yes you've got the benefit of atmosphere etc at a gig which helps, but some bands are a lot heavier or more fast-paced live, or they add extra elements, and it leaves the original recordings sounding flat. Or there are bands whose albums do sound brilliant but their live show is even better. I think studio and live are two different things which are unfair to compare anyway. No ill will intended, but I just can't agree. 

I agree. Temples are a good example, as they always sound much better live I think. Less produced (obviously), more dynamic and 'muscular'.

TTBZ

I’ve seen many bands at festivals that sounded great, then listening to the studio versions they sound really limp with no balls or grit. Really disappointing. Maybe a case of over-production and too much cleaning up of everything in the mix.

LastMantra

joetele said:

LastMantra said:

Pretty rare for a band to sound better live than recorded. 

Sorry but I feel like this is a complete oversimplification....

Yeah, probably, tbf.
The last gig I was at was quite a big, out door event. It was good but between the crowd making a racket and not being that close (my gf was pregnant so we hung back) the sound wasn't amazing. If I just purely wanted to listen I'd prefer some decent HPs at home. 

joetele

LastMantra said:

joetele said:

LastMantra said:

Pretty rare for a band to sound better live than recorded. 

Sorry but I feel like this is a complete oversimplification....

Yeah, probably, tbf.
The last gig I was at was quite a big, out door event. It was good but between the crowd making a racket and not being that close (my gf was pregnant so we hung back) the sound wasn't amazing. If I just purely wanted to listen I'd prefer some decent HPs at home. 

I definitely prefer small gigs over festivals. Sound gets lost too easy and too many other distractions at festivals 

LastMantra

It wasn't actually a festival. It was biffy Clyro. But yeah.

joetele

LastMantra said:

It wasn't actually a festival. It was biffy Clyro. But yeah.

I sort of meant outdoor I guess - much prefer indoors. Surprised about Biffy though, they're usually much better live. Although I haven't really been into them since after their third album Infinity Land 

LastMantra

I'm sure the amps and instruments all sounded great in isolation but by the time it got to my brain box a lot of the detail in the sound had been lost. 
Often it's the singer that is trying to interact with the crowd and what not...which is fun at the time but not really something you'd want to listen to at home.

professorben

Nope, I can do the whole set with a bone dry jcm800 type tone. 

It would be a bit boring though. 

BintyTwanger77

joetele said:

LastMantra said:

Pretty rare for a band to sound better live than recorded. 

Sorry but I feel like this is a complete oversimplification. Tons of bands I've seen sound better live than recorded. Yes you've got the benefit of atmosphere etc at a gig which helps, but some bands are a lot heavier or more fast-paced live, or they add extra elements, and it leaves the original recordings sounding flat. Or there are bands whose albums do sound brilliant but their live show is even better. I think studio and live are two different things which are unfair to compare anyway. No ill will intended, but I just can't agree. 

Gogol Bordello are a very good example of this. Amazing live, but the album I heard does not capture the energy they have playing live.

professorben

BintyTwanger77 said:

joetele said:

LastMantra said:

Pretty rare for a band to sound better live than recorded. 

Sorry but I feel like this is a complete oversimplification. Tons of bands I've seen sound better live than recorded. Yes you've got the benefit of atmosphere etc at a gig which helps, but some bands are a lot heavier or more fast-paced live, or they add extra elements, and it leaves the original recordings sounding flat. Or there are bands whose albums do sound brilliant but their live show is even better. I think studio and live are two different things which are unfair to compare anyway. No ill will intended, but I just can't agree. 

Gogol Bordello are a very good example of this. Amazing live, but the album I heard does not capture the energy they have playing live.

I see live vs recordings as totally different things. 

I much prefer to listen to recorded music as I love the subtle nuances and layers that you can’t get live, I have to wear ear plugs now so all live gigs have less impact now compared to my youth, so I definitely feel I don’t get drawn into the vibe as much as I used to. 

But overall I’d totally agree that the vast majority of bands sound better recorded than live.

soma1975

SRV on record is an overproduced 80s mess. Live he was staggering. 

LastMantra

Guess it depends on "better". 

Sorry for breaking your thread drew.
"painted into a corner"?, me?...no.

Fez

Only on two original songs where I use a viscous vibe but I can manage without it in a pinch.

professorben

soma1975 said:

SRV on record is an overproduced 80s mess. Live he was staggering. 

Which SRV records are these that I’ve never heard?!?!

All the ones I’ve heard sound fantastic. 

 

professorben

soma1975 said:

SRV on record is an overproduced 80s mess. Live he was staggering. 

Possibly the gargantuan amounts of narcotics causing balance issues. 

soma1975

professorben said:

soma1975 said:

SRV on record is an overproduced 80s mess. Live he was staggering. 

Which SRV records are these that I’ve never heard?!?!

All the ones I’ve heard sound fantastic. 

 

Really? Wow. 

No wonder you like modellers. 

professorben

soma1975 said:

professorben said:

soma1975 said:

SRV on record is an overproduced 80s mess. Live he was staggering. 

Which SRV records are these that I’ve never heard?!?!

All the ones I’ve heard sound fantastic. 

 

Really? Wow. 

No wonder you like modellers. 

Lol, but really. 

If you think they sound bad there’s something wrong with your ears. 

soma1975

If you think there is an SRV album that sounds as good as Live at the El Mocambo then you a crazy man.