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SNAKEBITESNAKEBITE Frets: 1069
What is the difference between a Jazzmaster pickup (generally speaking as I know there are probably several!) and a P90 pick up?
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  • JD50JD50 Frets: 502
    Totally different....




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  • SNAKEBITESNAKEBITE Frets: 1069
    Thanks for the link, I will have a look.
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  • SNAKEBITESNAKEBITE Frets: 1069

    Perfect video, explains exactly what I was after.

    Many thanks @JD50

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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 18319
    SNAKEBITE said:

    Perfect video, explains exactly what I was after.

    Many thanks @JD50

    Although if you want a slightly more Jazzmaster flavour from a P90 guitar you could fit a Gibson P90s, which is the slug pole version, similar to some of the very earliest P90s from the 1940s. 

    Here's one I pulled out of a 2015 Junior, and it's one of my favourite ever pickups.


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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 6695
    Just to confuse matters, some of the pickups issued by Fender under JM plastic covers are almost entirely unlike the traditional design.

    For example, on the current Am Pro model, the bobbin plates are the normal size and shape but set further apart to accommodate a coil that is about the size associated with a Telecaster bridge/Treble pickup. 

    Somebody I know has changed to Curtis Novak pickups. The difference was considerable. He described the stock Fender Am Pro units as sounding like a fat Bluesy Stratocaster. 
    Be seeing you.
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  • JD50JD50 Frets: 502
    Just to confuse matters, some of the pickups issued by Fender under JM plastic covers are almost entirely unlike the traditional design.

    For example, on the current Am Pro model, the bobbin plates are the normal size and shape but set further apart to accommodate a coil that is about the size associated with a Telecaster bridge/Treble pickup. 

    Somebody I know has changed to Curtis Novak pickups. The difference was considerable. He described the stock Fender Am Pro units as sounding like a fat Bluesy Stratocaster. 

    Ditto the Fender Japan pickups, basically Strat pickups in disguise.
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  • earwighoneyearwighoney Frets: 2596
    p90fool said:
    SNAKEBITE said:

    Perfect video, explains exactly what I was after.

    Many thanks @JD50

    Although if you want a slightly more Jazzmaster flavour from a P90 guitar you could fit a Gibson P90s, which is the slug pole version, similar to some of the very earliest P90s from the 1940s. 

    Here's one I pulled out of a 2015 Junior, and it's one of my favourite ever pickups.



    P90F, do you know what kind of outputs the P90 & Goldfoil have?  Do they match reasonably well for output?  What pots do you have both?  I remember reading you used a 250k for the volume, 500k for the tone right?  Is that for both?
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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 18319
    @earwighoney a bridge P90ST matches a neck Mojo Goldfoil perfectly in terms of output and tone, allowing both pickups to excel with the same amp setting. 

    It's a broadly similar match to say, a Fender Broadcaster with a Strat neck pickup, which makes for a perfectly balanced, versatile guitar.
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  • earwighoneyearwighoney Frets: 2596
    p90fool said:
    @earwighoney a bridge P90ST matches a neck Mojo Goldfoil perfectly in terms of output and tone, allowing both pickups to excel with the same amp setting. 

    It's a broadly similar match to say, a Fender Broadcaster with a Strat neck pickup, which makes for a perfectly balanced, versatile guitar.

    Thanks for the info P90F.  I think you have worked out a pretty bombproof combination of pickups for both, but the slug P90/GF isn't a million miles away from a Coodercaster combo (yours has a few advantages though). 

    The P90ST really does sound superb, one of the better sounding P90's I've heard - always difficult to tell from a YT video for compression but it seems to not have the midrange bump of some P90's but has a clear and balanced response across the ranges.

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  • robinbowesrobinbowes Frets: 2282
    I just put together a Jazzmaster from parts, and went with the Kinman Jazzmaster pickups - a pair of the Surfmaster/Brightmaster range: http://musictrack.co.uk/kinman/jazzmaster/brightmaster.html

    I've not got any experience of other JM pickups, or P90s, but I love the sound from the Kinmans - they sound awesome.

    R.
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  • HenrytwangHenrytwang Frets: 341
    JD50 said:
    Just to confuse matters, some of the pickups issued by Fender under JM plastic covers are almost entirely unlike the traditional design.

    For example, on the current Am Pro model, the bobbin plates are the normal size and shape but set further apart to accommodate a coil that is about the size associated with a Telecaster bridge/Treble pickup. 

    Somebody I know has changed to Curtis Novak pickups. The difference was considerable. He described the stock Fender Am Pro units as sounding like a fat Bluesy Stratocaster. 

    Ditto the Fender Japan pickups, basically Strat pickups in disguise.
    I’ve recently swapped the pickups in my 2002 crafted in Japan Fender Jazzmaster for a set of Fender 65 Jazzmaster pickups. As you say the Japanese pickups are just Stratocaster pickups in a Jazzmaster cover. The new Fender pickups are amazing, exactly what I expect a Jazzmaster to sound like.
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 6695
    Henrytwang said:
    I’ve recently swapped the pickups in my 2002 crafted in Japan Fender Jazzmaster for a set of Fender 65 Jazzmaster pickups. As you say, the Japanese pickups are just Stratocaster pickups in a Jazzmaster cover. The new Fender pickups are amazing, exactly what I expect a Jazzmaster to sound like.
    I have a pair of those pickups in the AVRI '65 JM that I acquired in a trade with Harry Seven last May. I had planned to change to Duncan Antiquity pickups at the first string change but grew to like the stock units. 
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