Parking fine from B&Q car park

prowla

MattBanshee said:

the_butler said:

If it's a parking charge notice & not a 'fine' (which only councils & police can issue) .apparently is unenforceable, I got one a few years ago from an car park adjacent to an asda which appeared to be part of the store's grounds (& I suspect the PCN company played on the ambiguity)

Apparently if you appeal you 'admit' you were parking in the wrong & are indeed only appealing to the company's 'better nature' (which they probably won't have) & if you respond to their letters you're also 'admitting' liability

I sent an empty envelope via recorded delivery to the appeals dept listed on the ticket so if it did go to county court I could claim I appealed & it was ignored, the ignored all further correspondence from them.

I was sent 3 or 4 increasingly threatening letters but didn't reply, & eventually they stopped.

It's a bullying scam & the business model is coercing payment through fear, I don't like bullies & refused to pay, I refused to entertain them full stop.

How you proceed is up to you & I'm not a solicitor or have any legal advice credentials

Wrong. A high court ruling has confirmed that they are legally enforceable.

Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/03/britains-biggest-parking-fine-motorist-told-must-pay-24500-ignored/

Wrong: The error was in ignoring them and letting it go to court.

Danny1969

MatthewShreddery said:

Thanks a lot for the input everyone. I'm going to visit b&q tomorrow to see what they can do, if they can't I'll just pay. I think it's pretty disgusting, but I can see why they do it

It's not B&Q it's the Pompey Centre that manages the car park, David Deacon is the centre's manager. 

Funkfingers

If you still have the receipt(s) for your B&Q purchases on that day, return them to the store, explaining that you need the refund to pay for the parking "fine." Be sure to do this LOUDLY AND CONSPICUOUSLY at the customer service desk.

CeeJay

MatthewShreddery said:

Thanks a lot for the input everyone. I'm going to visit b&q tomorrow to see what they can do, if they can't I'll just pay. I think it's pretty disgusting, but I can see why they do it

Indeed. If everyone decided to fit a carpet in their cars there'd be no spaces for shoppers 

the_butler

fretmeister said:

the_butler said:

If it's a parking charge notice & not a 'fine' (which only councils & police can issue) .apparently is unenforceable, I got one a few years ago from an car park adjacent to an asda which appeared to be part of the store's grounds (& I suspect the PCN company played on the ambiguity)

Apparently if you appeal you 'admit' you were parking in the wrong & are indeed only appealing to the company's 'better nature' (which they probably won't have) & if you respond to their letters you're also 'admitting' liability

I sent an empty envelope via recorded delivery to the appeals dept listed on the ticket so if it did go to county court I could claim I appealed & it was ignored, then ignored all further correspondence from them.

I was sent 3 or 4 increasingly threatening letters but didn't reply, & eventually they stopped.

It's a bullying scam & the business model is coercing payment through fear, I don't like bullies & refused to pay, I refused to entertain them full stop.

How you proceed is up to you & I'm not a solicitor or have any legal advice credentials

Lying to the court is perjury.

Can get prison time for that. 

Thankfully capital punishment was abolished a long time ago, 

prowla

These scammers make me not want to go to the shops; when you hear about the death of the high street and all that, there's cause and effect...

WiresDreamDisasters

Is there some reason you couldn't open your haberdashery on your own fucking driveway?

MatthewShreddery

No idea what you're on about

PC_Dave

WiresDreamDisasters said:

Is there some reason you couldn't open your haberdashery on your own fucking driveway?

Is there some reason you have to be such an arse all the time?




OP, did you get anywhere with this? Just wondering if you could use the fact that your ex didn't send on the letters as at least an excuse, and see if they'll reduce the charge or somehing?

Haych

"My" local Waitrose has a carpark managed by NCP.  There's a two hour free parking limit after which you are required to pay. 

Lots of local folk have been caught out by popping in for a paper and a coffee in the morning, say, and then returning later in the day for a bit more shopping.  Despite being there well under the two hour limit, because the two visits span a period of over two hours they end up with a parking charge notice from NCP a few days later.  It's been a hot topic of the local Facebook community page for months.

Very few actually pay the charge, as explaining the circumstances to NCP seems to invoke some sort of leniency, if not understanding - I guess the sheer volume of similar complaints makes the situation difficult to ignore, so NCP quash the charge.

Not sure if this is a possible angle you could use.  Popped in for a few things, got home realised I forgot something so went back later in the day and ended up with a charge notice for my trouble.  Not sure if ANPR makes that difficult but I'm sure the local NCP at Waitrose also use ANPR and it still issues charge notices in the circumstances above.

Personally, if it were me I'd try appealing to their better nature and possibly try using extraordinary circumstances as a reason for overstay, if I could make up a feasible excuse, but if that failed then I'd probably write it off to experience, pay up and move on.