Well-known songs that use Modes

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vizviz Frets: 6499
edited July 29 in Theory
Thought I'd compile a little list for people to get familiar with each mode's sound. Feel free to suggest!

Ionian

Over the Rainbow - Arlen & Harburg
Happy Birthday - Patty Hill
God save the Queen
Winnie the Pooh
I was Born to Love You - Freddie
Born to Run - Bruce Springsteen
Doe a Deer / Do Re Me - Rogers & Hammerstein
The Four Seasons (Spring) - Vivaldi
Since You Been Gone - Rainbow
Brown-Eyed Girl - Van Morrison
If I Could Fly - Joe Satriani
Viva La Vida - Coldplay
Girls Just Want to Have Fun - Cindi Lauper
Take On Me - a-ha
Jump - Van Halen
Red Red Wine - UB40
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  • vizviz Frets: 6499
    edited July 28

    Dorian

    Coconut Grove - David Lee Roth

    What shall we do with the Drunken Sailor

    Greensleeves

    Another Brick in the Wall - Pink Floyd

    Apache - The Shadows

    Thriller - Michael Jackson

    The Good, the Bad & the Ugly - Ennio Morricone

    A View to a Kill - Dorian Dorian

    I Wish - Stevie Wonder

    So What - Miles Davis

    Oye Como Va - Santana

    Stayin’ Alive - The Bee Gees

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  • vizviz Frets: 6499
    edited July 28

    Phrygian


    Modern Times - New Model Army

    War - Joe Satriani

    Remember Tomorrow - Iron Maiden

    For the Love of God - Steve Vai

    Harvester of Sorrow - Metallica

    Powerslave - Iron Maiden

    Wherever I May Roam - Metallica

    Time - Joe Satriani

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  • vizviz Frets: 6499
    edited July 29

    Lydian

    Flying in a Blue Dream - Joe Satriani

    Giant Balls of Gold - Steve Vai

    The Riddle - Steve Vai

    Wake Up - Rage Against the Machine

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  • vizviz Frets: 6499
    edited July 31

    Mixolydian

    Sweet Child o' Mine - Guns n’ Roses

    She Sells Sanctuary - The Cult

    Spiritwalker - The Cult

    Sweet Home Alabama (D Mixolydian) - Lynyrd Skynyrd 

    Come Up and See Me (especially instrumental intro) - Steve Harley

    You Really Got Me - The Kinks

    Material World - Madonna

    Celebration - Kool and the Gang

    Led Boots - Jeff Beck

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  • vizviz Frets: 6499
    edited August 5

    Aeolian


    Black Magic Woman - Santana

    Losing my Religion - REM

    Street Spirit - Radiohead

    Eye of the Tiger - Survivor

    Golden Brown - The Stranglers

    God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen

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  • vizviz Frets: 6499
    edited July 27

    Locrian

     

    Army of Me - Björk

    Harvester of Sorrow (guitar solo) - Metallica

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  • hotpickupshotpickups Frets: 1411
    edited July 23
    viz said:

    Locrian

     

    Army of Me - Björk

    Can't be many songs in Locrian I'd imagine? Funny mode that one 
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  • vizviz Frets: 6499
    edited July 28
    viz said:

    Locrian

     

    Army of Me - Björk

    Can't be many songs in Locrian I'd imagine? Funny mode that one 


    Nope. There’s a prokofiev piano concerto movement and a fragment of a Rachmaninov prelude (Bm) and a few other bits and bobs, but the trouble with Locrian is every time you play it, it sounds more like the 1st inversion of the chord 2 tones down, than the key of the Locrian root!
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 11054
    I think the best mixolydian song is "Come up and see me" by Steve Harley.

    It starts with a run up the mixolydian.
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  • fastonebazfastonebaz Frets: 1564
    Shred mode 

    Yngwie Malmsteen
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  • axisusaxisus Frets: 16263
    I don't get modes. I've had them explained plenty of times over the years. I don't get modes.
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 27875
    axisus said:
    I don't get modes. I've had them explained plenty of times over the years. I don't get modes.
    It is simply the home of a chord progression.

    Although the notes of C Ionion and D Dorian are the same, Over the Rainbow sounds much more 'major key' than Greensleeves does because of where the tonality of the song is centred.
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 27875

    Shred mode 

    Yngwie Malmsteen
    Phrygian Dominant & Harmonic Minor, usually.
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  • hotpickupshotpickups Frets: 1411
    edited July 23
    axisus said:
    I don't get modes. I've had them explained plenty of times over the years. I don't get modes.
    I didn’t either before lockdown tbh. But with the little extra knowledge I’ve found I can honestly say it’s changed my way of playing since learning them. Still early stages but my playing has changed and become more tasteful, With some help from @viz people might think I actually know what I’m doing now lol 

    I don’t really though lol 
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  • vizviz Frets: 6499
    octatonic said:

    Shred mode 

    Yngwie Malmsteen
    Phrygian Dominant & Harmonic Minor, always.

    Corrected
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 11054
    axisus said:
    I don't get modes. I've had them explained plenty of times over the years. I don't get modes.


    I think people confuse themselves thinking its a lot more complex than it is.

    If a song uses the C major scale, but it starts on a D chord and the D note feels like "home" when you solo over it then it's in D Dorian 

    That's about all there is to it.

    If you are in a minor sounding song and you are soloing away in your pentatonic box then try dropping in the extra notes from the minor. If the minor sixth sounds OK it's probably Natural Minor (Aeolian), but if it sounds a bit clashy and horrid and it sounds better up a semi tone to make a major 6th then it's probably Dorian.

    Same with Major. If you feel a bit happier with the 7th being flattened it's probably mixolydian.

    They are the only 4 modes I use.
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  • stratman3142stratman3142 Frets: 1165
    edited July 24
    axisus said:
    I don't get modes. I've had them explained plenty of times over the years. I don't get modes.


    ...If you are in a minor sounding song and you are soloing away in your pentatonic box then try dropping in the extra notes from the minor. If the minor sixth sounds OK it's probably Natural Minor (Aeolian), but if it sounds a bit clashy and horrid and it sounds better up a semi tone to make a major 6th then it's probably Dorian.

    Same with Major. If you feel a bit happier with the 7th being flattened it's probably mixolydian...


    That's how I learned things by ear before I knew what labels to put on things. I worked out the major and minor 5 note shapes by copying solos by Clapton, Hendrix and Kossoff etc, although I didn't know they were called 'pentatonics' at the time.

    Then I heard players putting in extra notes. For example: Wishbone Ash sometimes used 'classical' minor type sounds which were the minor pentatonic with an added 2 and b6. I called it the 'classical minor' scale until I later learned it was the Aeolian mode.  Peter Frampton used a jazz minor type sound which was the minor pentatonic with an added 2 and 6. I called it the jazz minor scale until I later learned it was the Dorian mode.

    That's how I learned by ear. Hear a type of sound, put my own label on it and try to relate it to something I already knew. Then re-label the type of sound when I discovered a more universally accepted term.

    I think of modes in terms of their intervals relative to their root note. The major and minor pentatonic patterns are useful templates, for me upon, which to build other scales. I view modes as useful labels to put on types of sound. So it's good that @viz is coming up with real world musical examples.

    It's not a competition.
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  • fastonebazfastonebaz Frets: 1564
    axisus said:
    I don't get modes. I've had them explained plenty of times over the years. I don't get modes.


    I think people confuse themselves thinking its a lot more complex than it is.

    If a song uses the C major scale, but it starts on a D chord and the D note feels like "home" when you solo over it then it's in D Dorian 

    That's about all there is to it.

    If you are in a minor sounding song and you are soloing away in your pentatonic box then try dropping in the extra notes from the minor. If the minor sixth sounds OK it's probably Natural Minor (Aeolian), but if it sounds a bit clashy and horrid and it sounds better up a semi tone to make a major 6th then it's probably Dorian.

    Same with Major. If you feel a bit happier with the 7th being flattened it's probably mixolydian.

    They are the only 4 modes I use.
    Ah so simple :-)
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  • fastonebazfastonebaz Frets: 1564
    Funnily enough after the excellent info above came out,  this popped up on Instagram 


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  • Danny1969Danny1969 Frets: 5173
    I personally don't see any harm to see'ing any mode as a customization of a major or minor scale ... it might not be right to think of it like that but it's perfectly valid.  

    To learn the intervals that produce these sounds it's far easier to view it from a keyboard rather than a fretboard. All the intervals are right there in front of you .... just start from C to C for the first mode (ionian - major scale) and note the intervals ... then start from D through to D (Dorian mode) and note the intervals ...then start from E through to E and note the intervals that produce the third mode etc

    I think I'm probably not thinking it right myself and there's probably something wrong with the above but it's enabled me to produce modal sounds in all keys. 

    Has to be said though .... half the modes seem to me to be  of limited use playing typical western music .....at the moment I use knowledge of what notes are in the underlying chords to spice up my solo's but I'm sure there's a secret to using the modes here ? 
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  • vizviz Frets: 6499
    Danny1969 said:
    I personally don't see any harm to see'ing any mode as a customization of a major or minor scale ... it might not be right to think of it like that but it's perfectly valid.  

    To learn the intervals that produce these sounds it's far easier to view it from a keyboard rather than a fretboard. All the intervals are right there in front of you .... just start from C to C for the first mode (ionian - major scale) and note the intervals ... then start from D through to D (Dorian mode) and note the intervals ...then start from E through to E and note the intervals that produce the third mode etc

    I think I'm probably not thinking it right myself and there's probably something wrong with the above but it's enabled me to produce modal sounds in all keys. 

    Has to be said though .... half the modes seem to me to be  of limited use playing typical western music .....at the moment I use knowledge of what notes are in the underlying chords to spice up my solo's but I'm sure there's a secret to using the modes here ? 
    Your method is spot on for creating them, and agreed, the piano is the ultimate tool because it’s a audiovisual model of our key system. 

    The other way is completely to ignore the incremental relationship between the modes and just think of them as deviations from the standard major and minor. 

    Yep, as you can see from the songs list, lydian and locrian are pretty rare. Even ionian is pretty rare if you’re a blues rocker. 

    I’d say mixolydian and dorian are the commonest in bluesy rock, and they both share the same notes in the upper part of the scale, so I’d almost be tempted to call them rock major and rock minor!
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  • vizviz Frets: 6499

    Funnily enough after the excellent info above came out,  this popped up on Instagram 


    Nice. Interestingly there’s hardly any music “in harmonic minor”, where harmonic minor is used as the notes over the root chord. Those notes are almost exclusively used over the V chord, as the phryg dom scale, like Octa said. Yngwie is often quoted as playing harmonic minor, but in actual fact he almost always snaps back to Aeolian once he comes off the V chord. 
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 2725
    viz said:

    Lydian

    Flying in a Blue Dream - Joe Satriani

    Giant Balls of Gold - Steve Vai

    Every Frank Zappa guitar solo.

    (OK, Dorian as well)

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  • stratman3142stratman3142 Frets: 1165
    viz said:


    ...I’d say mixolydian and dorian are the commonest in bluesy rock, and they both share the same notes in the upper part of the scale, so I’d almost be tempted to call them rock major and rock minor!

    When playing a blues in a major key, my general scale is the major pentatonic overlaid on top of the minor pentatonic, which can be thought of as the Dorian with an added major 3rd (or the Mixolydian with an added minor 3rd). Then I select notes to fit with the chords. It's kind of how I think of Clapton's classic solo to Crossroads.

    One can also add the major 7 to that scale over the V7 chord because the major 7 of that scale is the major 3rd of the V7 chord. Although I tend to think of it as part of an arpeggio of the V7 chord.

    It's not a competition.
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  • GuyBodenGuyBoden Frets: 542
    Modal Harmony can be a bit more complex, if you want to avoid sounding like it's in a major key.

    "The problem with the tritone in modal harmony is not so much the interval itself but the placement of that interval in a voicing in 3rds. Voicings in 3rds (triads and 7th chords) are so identified with the major and minor modes that their very use promotes tonal rather than modal identity."


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  • DulcetJonesDulcetJones Frets: 494
    I delved into modes several years ago and I get the theory and all but I came to the conclusion that the farther down the list you go the less "musical" they get.  I use ionian and dorian but, I think the breakdown list Viz(nicely done BTW!) has laid out reflects this imo.   As time marches on we might be surprised by some new composers though, you never know.

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  • vizviz Frets: 6499
    edited July 26
    Ta

    ... and some old composers. Aeolian and Dorian and their hypos are well medieval. But yep, I hope you’re right!
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  • UnclePsychosisUnclePsychosis Frets: 7882
    Definitely think people overthink the modes. 

    1. They're just scales
    2. Tutorials always dive in too deep. The only modes that are worth worrying about for beginners are Dorian and Mixolydian.

    (and Ionian and Aeolian---but its significantly less confusing for beginners to think of these as just Major and Minor scales so beginners should pretend they aren't modes IMO) 
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  • TforTeleTforTele Frets: 24
    viz said:

    Phrygian


    Modern Times - New Model Army

    War - Joe Satriani

    Remember Tomorrow - Iron Maiden

    For the Love of God - Steve Vai

    Dylan’s One More Cup of Coffee?
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  • vizviz Frets: 6499
    edited July 27
    TforTele said:
    viz said:

    Phrygian


    Modern Times - New Model Army

    War - Joe Satriani

    Remember Tomorrow - Iron Maiden

    For the Love of God - Steve Vai

    Dylan’s One More Cup of Coffee?
    Nope - that’s just minor. Maybe the fact that his first sung note is an E which then goes up a semitone to F might be lulling you into a false sense that that’s the b2, but actually it’s just a b6, as the song is in A minor. Maybe?

    The killer fact early on before the singing even starts is that the 2nd chord - the bVII - is a G not a G minor, which it would have to be if the song were in A Phrygian. 
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