Which key

fnptfnpt Frets: 746
For a song with the following chords:

Verse: D F Am G
Chorus: Em A F#m B A G

Which key is this song in? Does it change key from verse to chorus?
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  • vizviz Frets: 10697
    edited September 2022
    Depends on the flow of the music of course, as to where the progression is actually honing in towards, but it could be that:

    the first bit is in D.

    And the 2nd bit could be in G. Could be in Em but sounds more like it's in G, if the finale ends on that chord 

    First bit reminds me of Get Lucky
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  • fnptfnpt Frets: 746
    Thanks @viz.
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  • Are the A and B in the chorus major? If they're minor then its definitely in the key of G.

    The verse could be C but then the 'home' root chord isn't there.
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  • I'd be inclined to say the verse is also in G, with the F chord being "Borrowed"
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  • fnptfnpt Frets: 746
    It's a weird one, as I cannot see a clear key for any of the parts. The song is actually a well known hit from the 80's:


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  • vizviz Frets: 10697
    edited September 2022
    Ah ok, so it starts in Dm (though the 3rd isn't strong and is fairly ambiguous - I can't hear it properly on my phone)

    Then the chorus is temporarily in Em for 2 bars, then F#m. But it's not a massive modulation or anything, so really you'd say the whole song is in D. (A modulation is when the music "establishes itself in a new key", which this doesn't do.)
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  • RolandRoland Frets: 8707
    We’ve played this for years. The chords I use are:
    Intro: A7
    Verse: Dm F Am G Dm F C G
    Chorus: Em A F#m B  A G

    So you could say that the song is in Dm, and the chorus modulates twice before the rapid step down with the A G back to the verse. 
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  • fnptfnpt Frets: 746
    Thanks guys.
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  • Danny1969Danny1969 Frets: 10412
    The piano is playing a Maj 3rd on the verse  ...F#  so I wouldn't play a Dm on guitar .. that would sound wrong


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  • RolandRoland Frets: 8707
    We started playing this before we had a keyboard player
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  • vizviz Frets: 10697
    edited September 2022
    Danny1969 said:
    The piano is playing a Maj 3rd on the verse  ...F#  so I wouldn't play a Dm on guitar .. that would sound wrong


    Fair enough. A bit like smoke on the water. 

    Easiest just to say it’s in D then, rather than D major or D minor. 
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  • LPManicLPManic Frets: 1085
    For me the song is clearly in D. 

    The Em A F#m B is not really the chorus but more of a pre-chorus lead in to emphasis the shift back to the main key of the song.
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  • Danny1969Danny1969 Frets: 10412
    viz said:
    Danny1969 said:
    The piano is playing a Maj 3rd on the verse  ...F#  so I wouldn't play a Dm on guitar .. that would sound wrong


    Fair enough. A bit like smoke on the water. 

    Easiest just to say it’s in D then, rather than D major or D minor. 
    Yeah I would just say in D too 
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  • vizviz Frets: 10697
    Reminds me of Get Lucky
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    Supportact said: [my style is] probably more an accumulation of limitations and bad habits than a 'style'.
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