The F1 thread

Heartfeltdawn

holnrew said:

Yeah, I don't like the way that looks. Same with the front wheels on the formula e cars, it's not properly open wheel

It's good enough. The rear bumpers came in with the introduction of the DW12 chassis, so named in honour of the late Dan Wheldon. He got thrown into the wall by running over someone's rear tyres as did Will Power in the same accident. If you can make the sport safer without unduly reducing the appeal of the sport, it should be done. I feel the same way about cockpits. I know tradition dictates that cockpits are frowned upon but tradition takes a back seat to sense in this department. 

Heartfeltdawn

fretmeister said:

Alonso engine gone bang.

He's out.

I really hope he leaves F1. It is unlikely he'll end up in a top team again and equally unlikely that Honda will develop a decent engine for 2018. Seeing him in a genuine fight for victory for the first time in ages was marvellous. I'd love to see him doing some endurance racing (Alonso, AF Corse, and Bathurst next February would be fantastic), Le Mans, have another crack at the Indy 500. He's really got nothing left to prove in F1. His title victories are there and most observers know how good he drove for Ferrari in the Red Bull dominant years. 

Seeing the commercial viewing figures for Indy versus the Monaco figures will be very interesting. 

Fretwired

fretmeister said:

Spot on.

Alonso can't buy luck with Honda.

After today's F1 race I'm sure Mercedes will be interested in Alonso.

holnrew

Heartfeltdawn said:

holnrew said:

Yeah, I don't like the way that looks. Same with the front wheels on the formula e cars, it's not properly open wheel

It's good enough. The rear bumpers came in with the introduction of the DW12 chassis, so named in honour of the late Dan Wheldon. He got thrown into the wall by running over someone's rear tyres as did Will Power in the same accident. If you can make the sport safer without unduly reducing the appeal of the sport, it should be done. I feel the same way about cockpits. I know tradition dictates that cockpits are frowned upon but tradition takes a back seat to sense in this department. 

Ah, had no idea that was the reason behind it. That's pretty fair.

Fretwired

Looks like Perez will replace Palmer at Renault next season.

stickyfiddle

Can you imagine Palmer doing this at 210 mph!?!

More please!

Heartfeltdawn

Fretwired said:

Looks like Perez will replace Palmer at Renault next season.

That's a step down and a half for Perez if it happens. 

In 27 races over 2016 and 2017, Jolyon Palmer has landed a solitary point. Puts Maldonado's final season in 2015 for Lotus where he landed 27 points into better perspective. 

stickyfiddle

!!!

115 laps round Valencia. I'm guessing he doesn't have the mobility to drive a full season, but I wouldn't mind at all if he nicked Palmers seat...

https://twitter.com/RenaultSportF1/status/872113484368154626

rocktron

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Friday      21C  Cloudy with chance of light rain in the afternoon/evening
Saturday 21C  Sunny in the morning. Cloudy in the afternoon
Sunday   23C  Cloudy all day

Looks like another Ferrari win if Mercedes cannot heat up their tyres quickly.    

Fretwired

Mercedes to quite F1 in 2018?

http://en.f1i.com/news/270174-jordan-mercedes-will-pull-plug-2018.html

Fretwired

McLaren to ditch Honda?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/40196307

fretmeister

Fretwired said:

Mercedes to quite F1 in 2018?

http://en.f1i.com/news/270174-jordan-mercedes-will-pull-plug-2018.html

Might as well ask Eddie who is going to win the election.

Fretwired

fretmeister said:

Fretwired said:

Mercedes to quite F1 in 2018?

http://en.f1i.com/news/270174-jordan-mercedes-will-pull-plug-2018.html

Might as well ask Eddie who is going to win the election.

I think he's banking on Mercedes shift into electric cars ... I guess Mercedes could team up with McLaren again.

fretmeister

Toto has already said it's bollocks, and McLaren visited Merc in March to talk about buying engines.

TimmyO

Fretwired said:

McLaren to ditch Honda?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/40196307

I think they have to :-( 

simonk

Alonso's doing one if no wins in the next 3 months...

...so basically he's doing one.

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2017/06/08/alonso-wants-a-win-within-three-months-or-no-2018-deal/

Hoof

TimmyO said:

Fretwired said:

McLaren to ditch Honda?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/40196307

I think they have to :-( 

It would be suicide not to. The idea behind the Honda deal was that they believed that you can't win Championships with a customer engine.

Brawn did it in 2009 with a customer engine and no sponsorship or budget. 

The Honda deal has been a disaster: slow development, lack of unity between Mclaren and Honda, recurring reliability issues not being fixed presumably because the engineers at Honda don't know how to fix them, public spats/threats.

Mclaren make awesome high performance hybrid systems for their own road cars, why not make their own F1 engines?

TimmyO

Hoof said:

Mclaren make awesome high performance hybrid systems for their own road cars, why not make their own F1 engines?

They'd be starting from scratch too - they need a competitive engine sooner than that 

fretmeister

They need to buy Merc engines for 2 years while they design their own.

Hoof

fretmeister said:

They need to buy Merc engines for 2 years while they design their own.

This.

They'd never get Ferraris in a million years but I think Renault have enough with Red Bull making their works team look silly.

That said, I read rumours a while back about AUDI/Porsche/VW considering an F1 project. Also that BMW have expressed interest in coming back. I remember their engine were mega when they partnered Williams but perhaps that would be they way for them if they came back.

That's another major F1 problem really; a lack of engine suppliers. Merc, Ferrari, Renault. Realistically, that's it. Honda hardly count as an option and I believe will be out of F1 by 2020 if not sooner.