Box between AMP out and speaker to give a line out

spev11

Now I'm new to this so bear with me, I want a sort of DI box that sits between my amps speaker out and the speaker itself that will give me a line out to my USB interface. Sort of a DI box but I don't think that is it. From my poor (very poor I think) description does anyone know whats its called? My attenuator had a line out and did this very job but I've stopped using it so need another simpler version.
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tekbow

I'm pretty sure DI or line out box is right. Pretty sure this is what the Hughes & Kettner Redbox is/was except you prob don't want an analogue speaker sim like it has.

spev11

ah yes I'd seen the RedBox but wasnt sure if its what I was needing, I shall check that out, if the speaker sim can be disabled that would do the job
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kennedydream1980

Suhr used to make one. I think its called the ISO.

Dave8

This will do it. Put it between your amp and speaker. It needs the speaker load though. 

https://www.suhr.com/electronics/tone-tools/suhr-iso-line-out/

if you want to do this without the speaker connected, one of these would be more appropriate 

https://www.suhr.com/electronics/tone-tools/suhr-reactive-load/

Or this if you want to combine with IRs before it hits your interface. 
https://www.suhr.com/electronics/tone-tools/reactive-load-ir/

goldtop

spev11 said:

Now I'm new to this so bear with me, I want a sort of DI box that sits between my amps speaker out and the speaker itself that will give me a line out to my USB interface. Sort of a DI box but I don't think that is it. From my poor (very poor I think) description does anyone know whats its called? My attenuator had a line out and did this very job but I've stopped using it so need another simpler version.
ta

That will do the job just as well as any new box, and they have a bypass function if you don't like the attenuated sound. So I'd use that unless there was something specific that yours is lacking?

I've got about 5 or 6 of these boxes, and the unsimulated Line Out (for adding a speaker simulation by EQ or IR in the DAW) is the easiest and most reliable bit of the whole thing. In effect, it's just a pot and a resistor.

Musicwolf

Behringer do a cheap Redbox look-a-like https://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lighting/Behringer-ULTRA-G-GI100-Active-DI-Box/2X0?origin=product-ads&gclid=Cj0KCQjwx5qoBhDyARIsAPbMagCNiW2FKidZOc9lOgFfxA5sEknG2K7B8Vz8XVnxRfSaaNTgfL5h350aAnsLEALw_wcB

smigeon

I use a Palmer PDI-09 for this. Works well for me.

spev11

The attenuator started making some additional noises intermittently last month so it’s out of the loop at the moment. I was just thinking a smaller simpler box would be handier. 

Sporky

I used a Behringer GI something for this. 

goldtop

spev11 said:

The attenuator started making some additional noises intermittently last month so it’s out of the loop at the moment. I was just thinking a smaller simpler box would be handier. 

That's odd. What type is it?

Those with a rheostat (e.g. THD Hotplate) can get some crud on the wiper, but they should be reliable.

spev11

It’s a Harley Benton one, it’s been great but started making so odd noises, I’ve not had a chance to open it up yet, been busy but I’ll get in there tomorrow 

goldtop

spev11 said:

It’s a Harley Benton one, it’s been great but started making so odd noises, I’ve not had a chance to open it up yet, been busy but I’ll get in there tomorrow 

This one, I guess: https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/237875/is-the-harley-benton-pa-100-attenuator-ok

Seems to be a couple of resistors and a huge L-pad. That said, there's some other circuit on the line out, so it may have a low-cost low-effort speaker simulator, too?

bbill335

twonotes captor

MentalSharps

https://audiostorm.uk/product/hot-line/

spev11

Sporky said:

I used a Behringer GI something for this. 

thats the one I ordered, arrived yesterday and it does the job no fuss. Seems to be better than the line out the attenuator provided. 

pintspiller

bbill335 said:

twonotes captor

I use one of these. No need to actually have a cab plugged in, so silent recording!

PrecisionGuided

Ashdown PHONE-BOX
Phone-Box Headphone Out/DI Box – Ashdown Engineering (ashdownmusic.com)

spir4L

The best one is the Universal Audio Ox Box because it includes also great speaker and microphone simulation, but it's not very cheap, even if nowadays I would expect you can find one for a decent price.

The two notes Torpedo Captor and Captor X are valid cheaper alternatives - the second one should have also speaker simulation while the first one would require you buy something like a speaker simulator. One that was recently announced is the Universal Audio Ox Stomp. 

AmyTwonotes

bbill335 said:

twonotes captor

spir4L said:

The best one is the Universal Audio Ox Box because it includes also great speaker and microphone simulation, but it's not very cheap, even if nowadays I would expect you can find one for a decent price.

The two notes Torpedo Captor and Captor X are valid cheaper alternatives - the second one should have also speaker simulation while the first one would require you buy something like a speaker simulator. One that was recently announced is the Universal Audio Ox Stomp. 

Hi All, 

Amy from Two notes here! Great suggestions on the Captor and Captor X - if you have any questions on them, please let me know!