Mystery JCM800 Mod

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Flanging_FredFlanging_Fred Frets: 3169
My Marshall JCM800 4010 combo was sounding a bit “off” at a gig at weekend so I bought it home to take a look at. Anyway, I’ve owned this amp for about 15 years but I just realised that it looks like it’s  been modded. There seems to be an unmarked extra socket on the back plate and I have no idea what it is for.  Anyone hazard a guess what this might be for? I’m a bit unsure if it’s an output, input or even for a foot switch. 

Any ideas how/if I could test what it does without opening up the chassis and trying to figure out the circuit (or blowing myself or the amp up).

The socket on the far right.


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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 73532
    edited April 15
    You need to open up the chassis and take a pic. If you do it should be simple to identify what it does.

    If you’ve already taken the back panel off it’s just another four bolts.

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  • NerineNerine Frets: 2362
    Get it out for the lads! Let’s have a look! 
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  • adaminoadamino Frets: 128
    It could be an FX loop mod.I have one of these amps and there is no FX loop however one can buy the kit and have it installed.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 73532
    Given that the hole is drilled badly out of position, I would want to have a look anyway, to make sure there isn’t other poor workmanship inside. I know it may sound fussy, but it’s always a bad sign when someone can’t even mark and drill a hole correctly.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

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  • NerineNerine Frets: 2362
    adamino said:
    It could be an FX loop mod.I have one of these amps and there is no FX loop however one can buy the kit and have it installed.
    Perhaps the DI out has been repurposed as the other Jack for the loop. 
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  • Flanging_FredFlanging_Fred Frets: 3169
    Well, I got the chassis out and it looks to my untrained eyes that it’s an extra speaker output. It’s wired to the ohm selector and one of the original speaker outputs by the look of it. Please correct me if I’m wrong!



    The question is why anyone would bother with an extra speaker output? I’m sure there must be a reason…


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  • NeilybobNeilybob Frets: 878
    Extra speaker output= more speakers= more dbs! 
    Trading feedback - https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/228538/neilybob

    flanging_fed “
    A Les Paul, @ThorpyFX ;;Veteran and the 4010 is awesome at volume, it’s like playing Thor’s hammer!” Ref Marshall JCM800 4010 combo 
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 73532
    edited April 17
    Looks like it's wired as a headphone output, with no pad resistor and interrupting the speaker connection, which is extremely stupid. Dangerous to the headphones, will sound shit even if you don't blow them, and introduces a potential failure point into the speaker path so you could blow the output transformer.

    Remove it and wire the speaker jacks directly to the selector as they should be.

    Then think of something useful to do with the extra hole...

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

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  • Flanging_FredFlanging_Fred Frets: 3169
    Thanks @ICBM.  It’s good to know what it was intended for. Next time I get it serviced, I’ll request that it be disconnected. 
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