Epiphone USA Coronet

JezWynd

guitars4you said:

JezWynd said:

To ensure impeccable intonation and enhanced playability, the Epiphone Coronet is equipped with a wraparound bridge.

Don't know how a simple bar bridge is going to 'ensure impeccable intonation'. No mention in the text about the finish, I'd hope a US made Epiphone might have a nitro finish.

I own an original 64 Epi Coronet with the original wrapover bridge/tailpiece - They are not perfect intonation, if it is an original 'off the shelf' wrapover and you are using a plain G/3rd - However, many 'modern updated' models are machined with a perfect/tweaked intonation 'ridge' for a plain 3rd/G - Barely visible in some cases - Collings use such a wrapover on their 290 models - First glimpse and they look as per any 'old/original' wrapover - But just enough of a correct 'ridge' to use a plain 3rd - Many modern 'replacement' wrapovers will fit and 'correct' such intonation issues if required

I'll post a pic shortly of my original 64 - Neil at @IvisonGuitars borrowed it for a short while to measure all the spec when he built his Filmore Models - I only played 1 or 2 of these, when I saw Neil exhibiting at various shows and interesting to see how he built a better version of the original, based on 'playability'  

Interesting, thanks for the info.

JezWynd

impmann said:

Shame they didn't do it properly and fit the mini humbucker as per the original 1958 Coronet... 



Now *that* would be cool - and would make it sonically different to a Les Paul Junior...

From reading ATB link for their 59, the pickup is in fact a single coil. I'd always assumed these were mini hums too.

impmann

JezWynd said:

impmann said:

Shame they didn't do it properly and fit the mini humbucker as per the original 1958 Coronet... 



Now *that* would be cool - and would make it sonically different to a Les Paul Junior...

From reading ATB link for their 59, the pickup is in fact a single coil. I'd always assumed these were mini hums too.

I sit corrected - I always thought they were minibuckers too... but no they are the single coil "New Yorker" pickups. I wonder how different they sound to a P90...

Teyeplayer

impmann said:

Shame they didn't do it properly and fit the mini humbucker as per the original 1958 Coronet... 



Now *that* would be cool - and would make it sonically different to a Les Paul Junior...

Clearly a market for Mojo to make an authentic pickup to drop in. 

JezWynd

impmann said:

JezWynd said:

impmann said:

Shame they didn't do it properly and fit the mini humbucker as per the original 1958 Coronet... 



Now *that* would be cool - and would make it sonically different to a Les Paul Junior...

From reading ATB link for their 59, the pickup is in fact a single coil. I'd always assumed these were mini hums too.

I sit corrected - I always thought they were minibuckers too... but no they are the single coil "New Yorker" pickups. I wonder how different they sound to a P90...

Interesting article about their design from a man who knows his stuff...
https://www.guitarworld.com/features/the-curious-tale-of-epiphones-own-single-coil-pickups-the-new-yorker

koss59

Apparently those original New Yorker pickups don’t sound good. They look cool though 

guitars4you

impmann said:

JezWynd said:

impmann said:

Shame they didn't do it properly and fit the mini humbucker as per the original 1958 Coronet... 



Now *that* would be cool - and would make it sonically different to a Les Paul Junior...

From reading ATB link for their 59, the pickup is in fact a single coil. I'd always assumed these were mini hums too.

I sit corrected - I always thought they were minibuckers too... but no they are the single coil "New Yorker" pickups. I wonder how different they sound to a P90...

koss59 said:

Apparently those original New Yorker pickups don’t sound good. They look cool though 

I thought the same - Mini-humbuckers - So we live and learn - But as per Koss59 chat, those single coil NY pick-ups are thin and weedy IMO as per those fitted on the Gibson Melody Maker 

MSedg

The guy out of the Hives seems to manage without any weediness 

earwighoney

MSedg said:

The guy out of the Hives seems to manage without any weediness 

If you read the article above it is says there was no consistency for the New Yorkers, with some built at 3k and others at 8k, different magnets. Maybe the guy from the Hives has a good one or maybe he is such a fantastic guitarist it doesn't matter whether he has a good or not! 

I like the look of both though.  I reckon either the MIC/USA Coronet would be a a lot of fun with a Firebird pickup. 

guitars4you

earwighoney said:

MSedg said:

The guy out of the Hives seems to manage without any weediness 

If you read the article above it is says there was no consistency for the New Yorkers, with some built at 3k and others at 8k, different magnets. Maybe the guy from the Hives has a good one or maybe he is such a fantastic guitarist it doesn't matter whether he has a good or not! 

I like the look of both though.  I reckon either the MIC/USA Coronet would be a a lot of fun with a Firebird pickup. 

Funnily enough, that article was written by a guy called Curtis Novak - About 2 years ago I sold a used mid 60's Epi Olympic  - To all tense and purpose the pick-up looked original - No changes to the mounting, additional woodwork routing etc - So it just looked like the 'Strat' style single coil, pick-up as per the Melody Maker pick-up - But under the bonnet (scratch plate) was a nice update - Called the Curtis Novak MM90 - https://www.curtisnovak.com/shop/mm-90/ - Effectively a wolf in sheep clothing - It sounded so ballsy and yes P90 orientated 

earwighoney

guitars4you said:

earwighoney said:

MSedg said:

The guy out of the Hives seems to manage without any weediness 

If you read the article above it is says there was no consistency for the New Yorkers, with some built at 3k and others at 8k, different magnets. Maybe the guy from the Hives has a good one or maybe he is such a fantastic guitarist it doesn't matter whether he has a good or not! 

I like the look of both though.  I reckon either the MIC/USA Coronet would be a a lot of fun with a Firebird pickup. 

Funnily enough, that article was written by a guy called Curtis Novak - About 2 years ago I sold a used mid 60's Epi Olympic  - To all tense and purpose the pick-up looked original - No changes to the mounting, additional woodwork routing etc - So it just looked like the 'Strat' style single coil, pick-up as per the Melody Maker pick-up - But under the bonnet (scratch plate) was a nice update - Called the Curtis Novak MM90 - https://www.curtisnovak.com/shop/mm-90/ - Effectively a wolf in sheep clothing - It sounded so ballsy and yes P90 orientated 

Yeah he seems to be really well regarded as being a great maker of pickups.

Teleguide

guitars4you said:

My original 64 Coronet including the original 'crap' card board case 

Going by picture surely this is a pre 63 Coronet? A 64 would be asymmetric with the batwing headstock.   

guitars4you

Teleguide said:

guitars4you said:

My original 64 Coronet including the original 'crap' card board case 

Going by picture surely this is a pre 63 Coronet? A 64 would be asymmetric with the batwing headstock.   

To be honest I don't know why I said 1964 - I have an SG Jnr which is 64 so maybe getting confused - It is actually 1961 - 5 digit number starting 18 - And whilst I can't see both pot dates, one is certainly 61 - Thanks for pointing out my error 

In the words of Mannering, I was waiting to see who would first spot that error

PhilKing

I have a 59 Crestwood with those pickups.  The are much more polite than a P-90.  

CarbonCopy

As we've had a '59 and a '61 Epiphone solid body guitar, it would be rude not to include my '60 Coronet too. These seem to be the versions that the non USA reissues were modelled on.

guitars4you

CarbonCopy said:

As we've had a '59 and a '61 Epiphone solid body guitar, it would be rude not to include my '60 Coronet too. These seem to be the versions that the non USA reissues were modelled on.

Yours must be one of the last with the 'plate' logo - And mine of the first without it