Line 6 Helix

Bridgehouse

Cabicular said:

Bridgehouse said:

guitarfishbay said:

Bridgehouse said:

guitarfishbay said:

Doesn't look difficult though

If bass players can manage it, what does that say about Americans

Hey whoah!

Us bass players are meticulous in our accuracy. We manage to get through a whole song playing just a few notes repeatedly. Following methodical steps is fine for us.

I suspect the reason the updates go wrong is the number of guitarists adding an extra superfluous 150 steps and improvising their way all over a set of instructions that didn't need it...

What's more likely is the guitarists are learning how to do the first one or two steps then winging the rest of it

Lol - presumably distracted by all the girls they get at the same time. In their bedroom..

Bassist can get the Girls too
Take Rick James for example ..... 

I think this is the point when @mikeyrob73 steps in...

Cabicular

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Cabicular

Posting images via the phone is such a pain

Bridgehouse

Cabicular said:

Posting images via the phone is such a pain

Was worth the effort tho

Cabicular

Bridgehouse said:

Cabicular said:

Posting images via the phone is such a pain

Was worth the effort tho

I Love Dave Chappelles Rick James stuff

Vaiai

Ok, back to the Helix
I tried recording in Reaper last week - no problem - sound went in fine - but when I tried to playback I couldn't unless I unplugged the Helix and changed the output on my PC back to speakers - I am using the Helix specific driver. I was not using headphones tho - does it all work thru the phones? Just connected with USB btw - not using an interface.

mikeyrob73

Bridgehouse said:

Cabicular said:

Bridgehouse said:

guitarfishbay said:

Bridgehouse said:

guitarfishbay said:

Doesn't look difficult though

If bass players can manage it, what does that say about Americans

Hey whoah!

Us bass players are meticulous in our accuracy. We manage to get through a whole song playing just a few notes repeatedly. Following methodical steps is fine for us.

I suspect the reason the updates go wrong is the number of guitarists adding an extra superfluous 150 steps and improvising their way all over a set of instructions that didn't need it...

What's more likely is the guitarists are learning how to do the first one or two steps then winging the rest of it

Lol - presumably distracted by all the girls they get at the same time. In their bedroom..

Bassist can get the Girls too
Take Rick James for example ..... 

I think this is the point when @mikeyrob73 steps in...



do I have to read the whole post to get the joke? 

Cabicular

Vaiai said:

Ok, back to the Helix
I tried recording in Reaper last week - no problem - sound went in fine - but when I tried to playback I couldn't unless I unplugged the Helix and changed the output on my PC back to speakers - I am using the Helix specific driver. I was not using headphones tho - does it all work thru the phones? Just connected with USB btw - not using an interface.

Should be fine
you should be able to use USB 1\2 to return the signal unless you have changed your output block to exclude it

BGG

Finally played a Helix yesterday through my mates Firehawk amp.
Some fantastic sounds in there and great amps, banks and banks of awful stuff he's downloaded too mind, but some great patches.
Love it but deciding if it's overkill for my needs.

Vaiai

Cabicular said:

Vaiai said:

Ok, back to the Helix
I tried recording in Reaper last week - no problem - sound went in fine - but when I tried to playback I couldn't unless I unplugged the Helix and changed the output on my PC back to speakers - I am using the Helix specific driver. I was not using headphones tho - does it all work thru the phones? Just connected with USB btw - not using an interface.

Should be fine
you should be able to use USB 1\2 to return the signal unless you have changed your output block to exclude it

Should I be able to hear it on my PC or is it just in the headphones? When playing there was huge latency but in the manual it says to use headphones to ear it "live" - I presume I'd hear my backing track in there too?

stratman3142

Vaiai said:

Cabicular said:

Vaiai said:

Ok, back to the Helix
I tried recording in Reaper last week - no problem - sound went in fine - but when I tried to playback I couldn't unless I unplugged the Helix and changed the output on my PC back to speakers - I am using the Helix specific driver. I was not using headphones tho - does it all work thru the phones? Just connected with USB btw - not using an interface.

Should be fine
you should be able to use USB 1\2 to return the signal unless you have changed your output block to exclude it

Should I be able to hear it on my PC or is it just in the headphones? When playing there was huge latency but in the manual it says to use headphones to ear it "live" - I presume I'd hear my backing track in there too?

UPDATE: ***I've modified my previous post because, I've now read the relevant section in the Helix LT manual it's much easy than I previously described***. Definitely a case of, I should have RTFM

Previously I worked out my own method, which was more complicated than necessary.  But it's neat that the Helix GUI and routing is so logical that it's easy to work things out from first principles and there's lots of flexibility and more than one way of doing things.

Here's an easier Reaper/Helix method than I originally posted:

I monitored using the Helix headphone output, but I could have connected the 1/4 jack, phones or XLR outputs to my powered monitors if I wanted to. The monitoring system needs to be connected to one of the Helix outputs.

Pic 1 shows the settings I made in Reaper Preferences.

Pic 2 shows a simple Helix routing. Just select Multi as the Input and Output and that invokes USB channel 1 and 2.

Pic 3 shows that in Reaper, I can select Inputs 1 and 2 if I want the processed signal (post amp and cab) as Track 1 in Reaper. Alternatively, if I select Input 7 (Track 2 in Pic 2), I get the unprocessed guitar giving the option of re-amping.

I've experimented by playing along to an Addictive Drums midi track and hear no latency and it's all in sync.

Pic 1 - Reaper Preference Settings

http://i.imgur.com/emqDxES.png

Pic 2 - Helix Routing (simple example)

http://i.imgur.com/0YXxhTF.png

Pic 3 - Reaper Track Settings

http://i.imgur.com/5H59UKa.png

stickyfiddle

Has anyone got a whammy working that doesn't sound shit? I didn't expect polyphonic Whammy V stuff but it's worse than the M9 model was.

nick79

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but i'm just curious, i've tried to search for the answer but can't seem to find it (I'm thick  )
If i wanted to have one patch just using a say the Helix ts808  going into the front of my amp with for instance a chorus in the amps effects loop, then another to switch to using the helix amp models bypassing my amp's pre amp and going straight into the effects return, would that work? Is it possible? 

Sporky

Yes, but better to do that in a single patch with two snapshots. Switching between patches isn't instant, but you can make huge changes instantly with snapshots. And that'd be easy to do with snapshots.

nick79

Thanks mate. I'm now another step closer to splurging out for one. But just trying to wrap my head around what it can do and the possibilities. 

Sporky

There's not a whole lot it can't do. If it helps, my just-noodling patch, which replicates my old pedalboard, has a wah, two compressors, octave, EQ, four drive pedals, two tremolos, a phaser, two delays, reverb, and an amp with two cabs. That's not quite maxed out the Helix. One footswitch turns the whole thing into a bass simulator, the two tremolos are switched together (for wub-WUB-wub-WUB noises) and various things get controlled by the expression pedal.

Also it is genuinely easy to set all of that up.

nick79

Fantastic, thanks mate. I'm seriously tempted, especially now the LT has come out.

Cabicular

stickyfiddle said:

Has anyone got a whammy working that doesn't sound shit? I didn't expect polyphonic Whammy V stuff but it's worse than the M9 model was.

Don't put it where you would normally put it in the chain
it works better later on (I don't know what your chain is but some of my patches have it after the amp ! )