Line 6 Helix

Cabicular

firepaulmusic said:

I'm sure this is a simple thing but I can't see how to extend a serial route past the 8 on line 1? Also why would you want to take a delay or other effect out of the serial route and then back in at a different point? Sorry if these are daft questions.....

I'm not entirely sure what you mean but I'll try
You need to adjust the output block at the end to go to patch 2A as demonstrated in this video (actually just watch the video it covers most things! )

TimmyO

On the subject of bags for Helix : 

I got the Novation 25 key gigbag. I can get in it the following:

• Helix
• iPad
• K&M iPad holder
• Mic stand (the Airturn GoStand that collapses down smaller than a normal one) 
• Boom for mic stand
• Mic
• Power cable
• XLR cable
• iPad connector kit

I'd say the level of padding of the bag was just 'ok' particularly on the corners but to be fair having seen the punishment they gave a Helix in testing (Line 6 videos) it's more the passersby and nearby walls and car doors that are in danger I suppose. 

firepaulmusic

Is there a secret recipe for getting realistic overdrive tones direct to the PA with Helix? I've heard a lot about the IR's available but do they really make all the difference? I made what I thought sounded like a couple of great tones at home through a 1x10 active cab but when I tried them at sound check they sounded thin and buzzy. I have tried lowering the high cut on the cab controls...

horse

firepaulmusic said:

Is there a secret recipe for getting realistic overdrive tones direct to the PA with Helix? I've heard a lot about the IR's available but do they really make all the difference? I made what I thought sounded like a couple of great tones at home through a 1x10 active cab but when I tried them at sound check they sounded thin and buzzy. I have tried lowering the high cut on the cab controls...

I'm having a similar challenge with synth patches at the moment - programme them at home listening through a QSC K10 and headphones, but going through different big PAs live reveals all kinds of differences in tones, timbres and volume levels. Not sure how to do better than learn as I go really...

horse

firepaulmusic said:

Is there a secret recipe for getting realistic overdrive tones direct to the PA with Helix? I've heard a lot about the IR's available but do they really make all the difference? I made what I thought sounded like a couple of great tones at home through a 1x10 active cab but when I tried them at sound check they sounded thin and buzzy. I have tried lowering the high cut on the cab controls...

I'm having a similar challenge with synth patches at the moment - programme them at home listening through a QSC K10 and headphones, but going through different big PAs live reveals all kinds of differences in tones, timbres and volume levels. Not sure how to do better than learn as I go really...

RandallFlagg

horse said:

firepaulmusic said:

Is there a secret recipe for getting realistic overdrive tones direct to the PA with Helix? I've heard a lot about the IR's available but do they really make all the difference? I made what I thought sounded like a couple of great tones at home through a 1x10 active cab but when I tried them at sound check they sounded thin and buzzy. I have tried lowering the high cut on the cab controls...

I'm having a similar challenge with synth patches at the moment - programme them at home listening through a QSC K10 and headphones, but going through different big PAs live reveals all kinds of differences in tones, timbres and volume levels. Not sure how to do better than learn as I go really...

Did you leave your delay on slapback with 1 repeat? :-)

Cabicular

Scaling your sound up takes a bit of practise
its all about the mid range
This isn't  just a modeller issue but it's a bit less obvious with trad guitar amps as they are generally quite midrange voiced anyway
When you are setting up a sound at home you generally have a reasonable amount of high and low end to make it pleasing so you get the classic smile shaped eq
the problem is when you push the volume up those highs and lows need to stay roughly where they are and the rest of the signal has to come up
otherwise you end up with massive boomy bass and a ton of high end fizz
It gets even worse if you are in a band situation where all your highs are wiped out by the cymbals and all your lows are wiped out by the bass.
The mids where the guitar lives are now too quiet so you push the volume up making he bass even boomier  and the highs even fizzier

I have separate EQ blocks for low and high volumes but essentially the high volume just pushes the midrange 

gibsongretschfan

Helix now £1069
Helix LT £799


i really wish they would put the prices back up to keep the riff raff out

markblack

Why the price drop? (I'm not bothered, I got an ex-demo one for £899) but you'd be pissed if you bought one last week! For £1200

BGG

And the rack one £1069 saving £224 :O there's a £316 saving on the original Helix  

firepaulmusic

RandallFlagg said:

horse said:

firepaulmusic said:

Is there a secret recipe for getting realistic overdrive tones direct to the PA with Helix? I've heard a lot about the IR's available but do they really make all the difference? I made what I thought sounded like a couple of great tones at home through a 1x10 active cab but when I tried them at sound check they sounded thin and buzzy. I have tried lowering the high cut on the cab controls...

I'm having a similar challenge with synth patches at the moment - programme them at home listening through a QSC K10 and headphones, but going through different big PAs live reveals all kinds of differences in tones, timbres and volume levels. Not sure how to do better than learn as I go really...

Did you leave your delay on slapback with 1 repeat? :-)

Surely that's not 'the answer'?

RandallFlagg

firepaulmusic said:

RandallFlagg said:

horse said:

firepaulmusic said:

Is there a secret recipe for getting realistic overdrive tones direct to the PA with Helix? I've heard a lot about the IR's available but do they really make all the difference? I made what I thought sounded like a couple of great tones at home through a 1x10 active cab but when I tried them at sound check they sounded thin and buzzy. I have tried lowering the high cut on the cab controls...

I'm having a similar challenge with synth patches at the moment - programme them at home listening through a QSC K10 and headphones, but going through different big PAs live reveals all kinds of differences in tones, timbres and volume levels. Not sure how to do better than learn as I go really...

Did you leave your delay on slapback with 1 repeat? :-)

Surely that's not 'the answer'?

No. It was a cryptic reference to the fact that @horse double posted (see above). C'mon keep up. :-)

Musicman20

Ok, the prices, despite my happiness with my setup, are tempting....arghhhhh...

gibsongretschfan

Any here rocking the Novation back pack thingy for Helix? How's it holding up? At £30 it's really got me interested considering  how much cheaper it is than the Helix one

Drew_TNBD

gibsongretschfan said:

Any here rocking the Novation back pack thingy for Helix? How's it holding up? At £30 it's really got me interested considering  how much cheaper it is than the Helix one

It's an excellent bag. No complaints with mine at all.

firepaulmusic

RandallFlagg said:

firepaulmusic said:

RandallFlagg said:

horse said:

firepaulmusic said:

Is there a secret recipe for getting realistic overdrive tones direct to the PA with Helix? I've heard a lot about the IR's available but do they really make all the difference? I made what I thought sounded like a couple of great tones at home through a 1x10 active cab but when I tried them at sound check they sounded thin and buzzy. I have tried lowering the high cut on the cab controls...

I'm having a similar challenge with synth patches at the moment - programme them at home listening through a QSC K10 and headphones, but going through different big PAs live reveals all kinds of differences in tones, timbres and volume levels. Not sure how to do better than learn as I go really...

Did you leave your delay on slapback with 1 repeat? :-)

Surely that's not 'the answer'?

No. It was a cryptic reference to the fact that @horse double posted (see above). C'mon keep up. :-)

Oh, sorry about that. My brain space is all taken up with Helix stuff at the moment :-)

firepaulmusic

Drew_TNBD said:

gibsongretschfan said:

Any here rocking the Novation back pack thingy for Helix? How's it holding up? At £30 it's really got me interested considering  how much cheaper it is than the Helix one

It's an excellent bag. No complaints with mine at all.

What is the model number of the back pack in question please chaps?

Drew_TNBD

firepaulmusic said:

Drew_TNBD said:

gibsongretschfan said:

Any here rocking the Novation back pack thingy for Helix? How's it holding up? At £30 it's really got me interested considering  how much cheaper it is than the Helix one

It's an excellent bag. No complaints with mine at all.

What is the model number of the back pack in question please chaps?

It's this one: https://www.thomann.de/gb/novation_impulse_soft_carry_case_25.htm?sid=1eb6145eecb9b0c4ba0298696f99f7d9

gibsongretschfan

Drew_TNBD said:

gibsongretschfan said:

Any here rocking the Novation back pack thingy for Helix? How's it holding up? At £30 it's really got me interested considering  how much cheaper it is than the Helix one

It's an excellent bag. No complaints with mine at all.

Sold!

sgosden

Anyone got experience of using a power amp with helix to power a standard cab on stage?

I'm weighing up the cost/benefits of the Harley Benton gpa400 vs Matrix GT series.

Any others I should be looking at?