How do people enjoy this??? Am I getting old?

jpfamps

I was in a public house not of my choice last night

The pub was on 3 floors, was rammed and "dance" music was being played and all floors and INCREDIBLY loud and distorted. I mean REALLY REALLY loud, to the point you couldn't even converse by shouting. And I was constantly jostled by punters.

Do people actually enjoy this?

It seemed to be that there were a lot of people in there who looked like they were pretending to have a good time.

Now it's difficult for me to articulate how much I dislike "dance music"; to me it reminds me of when I used to work in a factory.

Am I getting old?

Jimbro66

Probably  

Phil_aka_Pip

jpfamps said:

Am I getting old?

Maybe but wiser with it too

Drew_TNBD

Nah, you're pretty much spot on. Culture is degrading. Dance music today is a farrrrrr cry from the stuff in the 80's and 90's.

Skodadad

I didn't like it at 25, I sure as hell don't like it now! You may be getting old but you are not alone.

Rowby1

jpfamps said:

I was in a public house not of my choice last night

This is where you went wrong

Sporky

That sounds most unpleasant to me too, but I imagine if you're with the right people and in the right mood it might well be quite fun.

Not sure it's an age thing, I'd never have enjoyed it. I'd much prefer a quiet room with no strangers in it.

jpfamps

I have to admit I've never liked "dance" music, even in my 20s, so I don't think it's an age issue.

I also don't mind a loud gig if it's music I want to listen too.

One of my objections to "dance" music is that it's sonically so horrible. It's not a "nice" sound and when distorted very fatiguing to listen to at any volume, let alone at absolute wind tunnel volume.

richardhomer

Yeah I'd prefer to have third-degree burns than be subjected to that - though the whole point of modern music is that we're not 'supposed' to understand it. Nostalgia isn't what it used to be....

jd0272

Yoof are more than welcome to it all.

Jalapeno

When you're properly getting old - lot's of talking in a pub can do the same thing   

Especially with middle aged men the mid-range hearing starts going from you mid/late 40s.

Heartfeltdawn

jpfamps said:

Do people actually enjoy this?

It seemed to be that there were a lot of people in there who looked like they were pretending to have a good time. 

There were people looking like they were having a good time in the Woodstock mud and at the Hells Angels-secured Altamont. Some people enjoyed the gobbing of punk, the defeaning scream of teenage girls at Shea Stadium, being financially shafted going to the O2 in London to see some geriatric old fucks play with half the power and energy of their youth. There are shit gigs and shit venues and you got the latter last night. But let's not pretend that it's a modern creation to listen to badly amplified music in a hellhole and to smile about it. 

Drew_fx said:

Nah, you're pretty much spot on. Culture is degrading. Dance music today is a farrrrrr cry from the stuff in the 80's and 90's.

There is some really tedious revival stuff going around but plenty of excellent stuff as well. 

richardhomer said:

Yeah I'd prefer to have third-degree burns than be subjected to that - though the whole point of modern music is that we're not 'supposed' to understand it. 

Taylor Swift, Adele, Miley Cyrus. All modern. What's so hard to understand about them? 

ICBM

I like quite a lot of modern "dance" music and I'm 48… I also have reasonable top-end hearing through having always worn earplugs whenever I think it's dangerously loud.

I don't like it - or any music really - when it's loud to the point of not being able to talk to anyone or order a drink without pointing at it. Distorted is worse, regardless of the music type. Yes, there is some irony in an electric guitarist saying that, no doubt...

Chalky

The problem has always been teenage psychology, which demands rejection of the previous generational cultures. This means they create something new - good because we can't have better things if all things stay unchanged. But, as glam rock proved, new does NOT always mean better.

Sibelius

Nope, I've never enjoyed it. Country pubs with an open fire and the landlords dog sitting in front of it, is more my cuppa.

I did used to frequent a rock club that I enjoyed until I witnessed a guy arguing with his girlfriend  Some other guy came up and pushed him to the floor (not difficult with the state he was in) and then everyone around them started to stomp on him and kick him    I ran down the 3 flight of stairs to inform the doormen and they slammed me against the wall, to run up the stairs. By the time I got back up stairs the doormen were beating the shit outta him! And roughly man handling his girlfriend. Not nice.

jpfamps

ICBM said:

I like quite a lot of modern "dance" music and I'm 48… I also have reasonable top-end hearing through having always worn earplugs whenever I think it's dangerously loud.

I don't like it - or any music really - when it's loud to the point of not being able to talk to anyone or order a drink without pointing at it. Distorted is worse, regardless of the music type. Yes, there is some irony in an electric guitarist saying that, no doubt...

I was definitely in the dangerously loud range.

I left as soon as I could.

It wouldn't be surprised if a load of people who regularly went raving in their youth end up with premature hearing loss.

Heartfeltdawn

Chalky said:

The problem has always been teenage psychology, which demands rejection of the previous generational cultures.  

In the past I'd agree with you but I don't think it's true now. A large number of teenagers happily accepted revived versions of the previous generational cultures given to them by the old folk . X-Factor is full of old music cover versions, Mumford and Sons and the folk movement drip with it, the shoegazing revival, Marvel DC, Doctor Who, Star Wars in the cinemas are cultures updated for a modern audience. What is the Corbyn popularity if not an endorsement by young people off a previous generation's political stance? The nature of teenage rebellion has changed in my view. 

Maybe things will change once the McG version of Masters of the Universe comes out and the teens decide that enough is enough and that all this rehashing of old shit must stop

guitarfishbay

Hearing damage will be a big problem in the future. I won't go near any loud club without my earplugs. Most people I know who aren't otherwise musicians still don't wear earplugs, and still think it makes you a wuss etc...

Phil_aka_Pip

Chalky said:

 But, as glam rock (and punk, and most of what followed it) proved, new does NOT always mean better.

fixed

Drew_TNBD

Chalky said:

The problem has always been teenage psychology, which demands rejection of the previous generational cultures.

I don't think that's true at all.

Teenage rebellion is more about rebelling from their peers. The previous generation is largely irrelevant.

Phil_aka_Pip