Trace Elliot Spares?

martinw

Anyone know where I might be able to get a new mains transformer for a Trace Elliot AH-500 12 bass amp?

rossyamaha

Pretty sure you'll only get one from the US now. No one took on the distribution or service when Peavey closed. I think Peavey US will supply you though.

Richardj

Well worth asking these guys - http://www.electronicmusicservices.co.uk/ - I was pointed at them by Peavey when I had a query with my Trace TA50R.

Richardj

Weird double post.

jpfamps

I'd be surprised if there isn't an Ashdown unit that would do the job.

DJH83004

This guy, Chris Goodwin is International Customer Service Manager, has been very helpful in the past  

From: customerservice@traceelliot.com [mailto:customerservice@traceelliot.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 8:33 PM
To: Dave Hunter
Subject: RE: Trace Eliott TE 715X

Chris Goodwin

Trace Elliot International Customer Service Manager

 

 

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ICBM

Is it a Toroid Audio P/N TI-053010B, Peavey PTE-TX002?

If so I have one spare.

martinw

ICBM said:

Is it a Toroid Audio P/N TI-053010B, Peavey PTE-TX002?

If so I have one spare.

It's not a Peavey-ownership amp, it's a 99 model, pre all that.

 I wonder if it would be the same though. If so, I'm very interested.

I'll have a look for a part number shortly. I do remember it's made by Demeter Windings.

Thanks for the other pointers too.

ICBM

There's a chap I work for who has a shed full of old Trace gear, I'm pretty sure there's at least one dead older AH500 in there - not sure of the age, but between this and that it's possible there will be something that fits - I'll ask him.

martinw

That would be great. I'm happy to pay a decent price as my customer wants his amp back again!

Here's a pic of the offending article:

Part No appears to be 72-TRAN-500-1299

It has 5 secondaries.

exocet

Demeter Windings are still in business? Located in Chelmsford Essex.

ICBM

martinw said:

Here's a pic of the offending article:

Part No appears to be 72-TRAN-500-1299

It has 5 secondaries.

Bugger… I'm almost certain all the old dead ones are blocks not toroids, but I can find out for sure in a few days.

This one doesn't look quite right either - four secondaries:

275V

85V no centre tap

16V-0-16V

16V-0-16V

(Approx, measured with 24V on the primary.)

I've also got one out of a Warwick, but it looks like it might be too large a diameter to fit in that amp even if the secondaries were right, and I think the amp was only a 300-watter.

May be best to contact Demeter, although if they have to wind something that's out of production it might not be cheap.

crunchman

We had a Gallien-Krueger bass amp in church that had a toroidal power transformer go.  The repair place we use said they couldn't get a replacement.  We ended up getting another amp.  Why can't they use something off the shelf?

jpfamps

crunchman said:

We had a Gallien-Krueger bass amp in church that had a toroidal power transformer go.  The repair place we use said they couldn't get a replacement.  We ended up getting another amp.  Why can't they use something off the shelf?

You often can, or use a transformer from another manufacturer.

The cynical view might be that the repair shop had enough work on that they didn't want to go to the effort of trying to find a replacement.

Getting a unit custom wound isn't that expensive either.

martinw

I'm going to make some calls today. If I can't find one in stock I shall be getting a custom wound unit made.
I very much doubt Demeter hold any stock, but they might have spec available.

ICBM

I know the problem. It can sometimes be tricky to get a replacement that matches all of the combinations of secondary voltages in a multi-winding transformer, and which physically fits as well - although that's usually easier with toroids.

It's why I keep the transformers from anything I've scrapped - unless I've got multiples (eg Marshall DFX…) - even though they're actually one of the less likely parts to fail in a modern amp.

ESBlonde

If Demeter have no stock it's also possible they have no new formers either, but rewinding the burnt out original should be a possibility.

crunchman

jpfamps said:

crunchman said:

We had a Gallien-Krueger bass amp in church that had a toroidal power transformer go.  The repair place we use said they couldn't get a replacement.  We ended up getting another amp.  Why can't they use something off the shelf?

You often can, or use a transformer from another manufacturer.

The cynical view might be that the repair shop had enough work on that they didn't want to go to the effort of trying to find a replacement.

Getting a unit custom wound isn't that expensive either.

That particular amp was only around £300 new, so it probably wasn't worth going to too much expense on.

martinw

Well I phoned Demeter Windings, and they are making a new transformer for the amp. The price is very reasonable, so all's well that ends well.

4114Effects

Complete and utter necro thread bump, but I have a trace 1210 with a blown power tx, can you pop me a message @martinw and let me know if/ how I can obtain one :-)

4114Effects

@ICBM still have one spare? Lol