Fender Postmodern Journeyman guitars?

johnonguitar

And btw surely the fact that I've played one gives me more to contribute to the thread than having a geeked out encyclopaedic knowledge of its specs?

TimmyO

johnonguitar said:

TimmyO;1025747" said:

johnonguitar said:

so they are basically Squire Classic Vibes with a setup?





Why come in to a thread about a type of guitar you don't know the spec of (so I suspect haven't touched) and say it's crap.

Click another thread, go be positive about something you can contribute to :-/ pfft 

Oh get your head out if your ass. Yeah I didn't realise they were compound radius. Woops. Shoot me.

The last comment was in reference to someone saying that a USA strat with a setup is just as good as CS and ICBM saying that the Classic Vibes were similar on a budget

Maybe you should go have your coffee?

Fair enough

impmann

To be honest no matter how good the guitar is the name reminds me of those wanky coffees that trendy tossers order loudly in cafes these days...

Yeah, er, double mocca-frocca-chappa-lattechino with fragrant berrie jus and slightly whipped semi-skimmed organic dairy-free cream please...

The sort of coffee that takes 10minutes to make. At peak time.

The sort of coffee that should come with a free punch in the face and a complimentary kick in the balls..
 

stickyfiddle

impmann said:

To be honest no matter how good the guitar is the name reminds me of those wanky coffees that trendy tossers order loudly in cafes these days...

Yeah, er, double mocca-frocca-chappa-lattechino with fragrant berrie jus and slightly whipped semi-skimmed organic dairy-free cream please...

The sort of coffee that takes 10minutes to make. At peak time.

The sort of coffee that should come with a free punch in the face and a complimentary kick in the balls..
 

Noone who actually likes coffee would ever buy that, because it's basically a hot milkshake. 

I get annoyed enough when I ask for a regular size coffee and they ask if that's Venti or Grande. How am I supposed to know?

TimmyO

I hadn't realised the 'journeyman' bit meant reliced - I can live without relicing

mesatele

I am wondering, is there currently a Custom Shop guitar available that isn't reliced? I know there is NOS but that is still aged.

Can you buy a pristine immaculate Custom Shop guitar?

Brize

mesatele said:

I am wondering, is there currently a Custom Shop guitar available that isn't reliced? I know there is NOS but that is still aged.

Can you buy a pristine immaculate Custom Shop guitar?

No, NOS is pristine. The Closet Classic guitars have lacquer checking and a light rub with wire wool (or similar) but no other ageing.

Philly_Q

Brize said:

mesatele said:

I am wondering, is there currently a Custom Shop guitar available that isn't reliced? I know there is NOS but that is still aged.

Can you buy a pristine immaculate Custom Shop guitar?

No, NOS is pristine. The Closet Classic guitars have lacquer checking and a light rub with wire wool (or similar) but no other ageing.

And the models with modern hardware - basically higher spec versions of Fender USA models - are generally not aged.

And of course you could do a custom order and have it however you like.

Loobs

to call  something as traditional and classic as a Stratocaster 'postmodern' is pretty silly, in my opinion.

Maybe something like a Teuffel Tesla.

bluebuddha

I'd like it if they had modern 2 point trems with light relic, that would be more 'postmodern'

They seem to be more like custom shop builders choice, which frankly is a better name.

for such a radical (OTT) name, they're playing it very safe aiming for the CS market for perhaps customers who don't want someone elses tribute model?

GretschCountryGent

I know I'm a little late to this discussion but can any of you who've played the fender postmodern journeyman telecasters tell me how the neck feels considering they have a thick coat of laquer on them 

octatonic

GretschCountryGent said:

I know I'm a little late to this discussion but can any of you who've played the fender postmodern journeyman telecasters tell me how the neck feels considering they have a thick coat of laquer on them 

I played a bunch of them recently back to back with some satin necked Suhr's and Anderson's.

They felt slower- friction was definitely an issue, so I didn't buy one.

Mike58

Tried a lefty Fiesta Red Journeyman Strat, no idea if it was postmodern.
pile of junk.. really.
fret buzz 11-21 st fret, choked out on bends, rosewood board super light colour and bone dry .. horrible.
righty electrics wired anti-clockwise , so totally fkin useless and also righty knobs so that didn't work either.
nice sticky lacquered neck.
piece of £2885 shit.
But it's a Custom Shop so it must be great
NOT.

bacchanalian

@Mike58, did you buy it?

From experience and observation, being a postmodern is one of the things that reduces the used price.  A brave choice to buy new unless you are certain you are keeping it.

DrBob

impmann said:

To be honest no matter how good the guitar is the name reminds me of those wanky coffees that trendy tossers order loudly in cafes these days...

Yeah, er, double mocca-frocca-chappa-lattechino with fragrant berrie jus and slightly whipped semi-skimmed organic dairy-free cream please...

The sort of coffee that takes 10minutes to make. At peak time.

The sort of coffee that should come with a free punch in the face and a complimentary kick in the balls..
 

As someone that almost only ever orders Espresso and occasionally an Espresso Machiato I’ve long felt that there should be a fast (espresso ?) lane in coffee shops for people who are actually ordering real coffee rather than some stupid, massive cup of mildly coffee flavoured milk..

I remember walking down our local high street with my Italian dad in the mid 90s when coffee shop fever was first taking hold, as we watched all the people coming out with their huge cups he said, very clearly
”Cappucino is for Breakfast, or children”

Correct !

octatonic

Mike58 said:

Tried a lefty Fiesta Red Journeyman Strat, no idea if it was postmodern.
pile of junk.. really.
fret buzz 11-21 st fret, choked out on bends, rosewood board super light colour and bone dry .. horrible.
righty electrics wired anti-clockwise , so totally fkin useless and also righty knobs so that didn't work either.
nice sticky lacquered neck.
piece of £2885 shit.
But it's a Custom Shop so it must be great
NOT.

Which shop?
Having worked in music retail (long time ago... in the 90's) it is often down to what the shop does when it receives the guitar.
Most shops unpack the guitar and stick it on the wall.
Good shops take the guitar out of the box, assess what it needs and does a restring or set up, tweak at the nut and then will offer you another setup as part of the sale.

There seems to be far fewer 'good shops' out there these days.
I was at a shop here in Geneva a few days ago- not a single guitar I played was intonating well or close to being in tune.
I pointed this out to the store owner and I got a shoulder shug.

OK, but I'm simply not spending 2-4k on an instrument that plays like a bag of spanners.
The thing is that there are plenty of people who will, so there is less of an incentive for vendors to up their game.
If 'we' collectively started complaining about this sort of thing then it is possible that a few retailers would get the message.

Jalapeno

octatonic said:

If 'we' collectively started complaining about this sort of thing then it is possible that a few retailers still actually in business would get the message.

FTFY

TeleMaster

So this thread is about coffee then huh?

OilCityPickups

Isn't 'postmodern journeyman' a polite way of saying hipster twat?

crunchman

frictionfraction said:

I might be swimming against the tide in this one but I generally think that a good std strat with say some bare knuckles and a pro set up pretty much can run close any custom shop guitar for half the money. Gibson on the other hand sees a great difference between the stds and the custom shops

The Mexican Classic Series (now Vintera) is probably a better bet than the US Standard.  At least it has a proper bridge.

If you can find a good Mexican one, then they can be stunning guitars.  The difference is that you might have to try 10 of them to find a really good one.  With the higher end of the US factory range (AVRI, now American Original), you might have to try 6 of them to find a really good one.  With the Custom Shop guitars, it may be 50% of them that are really good.