Unemployed...by choice

Ro_S

Managers and employers can go f@ck themselves.

If you ever get low self esteem from being jobless, watch the Jeremy Kyle show.  It works wonders.  GPs should prescribe it before dishing out anti-depressants.

Ro_S

richardhomer said:

I'm about to go self-employed and am really looking forward to being master of my own destiny and working for who I chose, when I want to, on terms which suit me.

I expect to be poorer - but much happier....

amen

marantz1300

I work shifts   and put up with tons of stress from jumped up maggots.

The wanking helps a lot though..Dab me knob on their paperwork and hope they catch cock cheese disease.

octatonic

richardhomer said:

I expect to be poorer - but much happier....

You'd only spend it on beard oil, skinny jeans and craft beer.

Teetonetal

Ro_S;1080011" said:

Managers and employers can go f@ck themselves.

From a company petspective I always feel people with that attitude are best of out of the organisation.

Sambostar

I'm self employed, poor and happy. 

I'd like to build a place one day, but probably not here and not yet as, as yet, I've no desire.  What gets me are all these amateur 'Property Developers' who can't even brick lay, lay a patio, assemble a roof or nor even do any basic first fixes, let alone any second fix detailing.

Yet most who can do these things live in tiny rented boxes.  It is sadly all about the money. It's kind of sad that you are forced into something like IT or slaving away to sell your soul if you ask me. 

It always amazes me how people who sit down all day and work a straight 8 hour day inside with minimal capital investment risks, few overheads and zero health of injury risks value their time compared to those who break their backs and bust their balls and die younger because of it, but then, I guess that is capitalism. 

Although it's also a bit to do with the legacy of the feudal class system that exists in this country too though.  If you graft in the USA you can earn pretty big bucks, even on a small scale as a sole trader.  Here, they just import foreign trades for a basic wage.  After all, most of the infrastructure in this country was built by foreigners and the untermenschen and it still is to this day.  Maybe plumbers are the exception, although it's largely a myth.  The only way to make big bucks is to be a huge company and pool your resources, chat up Ministers or win Council contracts because no one else is set up with a pooled asset bank to take the risk to compete in this country.  The American Dream doesn't really work here.  Then again, in the States, your average IT bod only gets a fraction more than people who work on the cashier in Walmart.

They reckon average self employed and sole trader debt, excluding mortgages is £16k.  Mine is zero and I don't have to work to generate clients.  I thoroughly recommend it.  Simply life.

octatonic

Sambostar said:

I'm self employed, poor and happy. 

I'd like to build a place one day, but probably not here and not yet as, as yet, I've no desire.  What gets me are all these amateur 'Property Developers' who can't even brick lay, lay a patio, assemble a roof or nor even do any basic first fixes, let alone any second fix detailing.

Yet most who can do these things live in tiny rented boxes.  It is sadly all about the money. It's kind of sad that you are forced into something like IT or slaving away to sell your soul if you ask me. 

It always amazes me how people who sit down all day and work a straight 8 hour day inside with minimal capital investment risks, few overheads and zero health of injury risks value their time compared to those who break their backs and bust their balls and die younger because of it, but then, I guess that is capitalism. 

Although it's also a bit to do with the legacy of the feudal class system that exists in this country too though.  If you graft in the USA you can earn pretty big bucks, even on a small scale as a sole trader.  Here, they just import foreign trades for a basic wage.  After all, most of the infrastructure in this country was built by foreigners and the untermenschen and it still is to this day.  Maybe plumbers are the exception, although it's largely a myth.  The only way to make big bucks is to be a huge company and pool your resources in this country.  The American Dream doesn't really work here.  Then again, in the States, your average IT bod only gets a fraction more than people who work on the cashier in Walmart.

They reckon average self employed and sole trader debt, excluding mortgages is £16k.  Mine is zero and I don't have to work to generate clients.  I thoroughly recommend it.  Simply life.

Get back to work.

I'm not paying you to piss about.

Sambostar

You have no idea of hard work judging by the hair on your knees and also I don't have to work for you, because I can also pick and choose, you'll probably get some wide boy who charges four times the price and does work to a hundredth of the quality.

That said how the hell you coped with training yourself and then doing 15 years in IT is beyond the capabilities of my reasoning. 

It's like trying to rationalise the true infinity of space.  I could be a permanent resident in a mental institution by now if I chose that route.

It's not that I begrudge rich people or think that anyone can't do anything, because I don't and I do think anyone can do anything.  We have one of the best education systems in the world.  It's just this obsession with money and housing investment that gets me and the fact that you need money to make money and if you have a lot of money, you can make all the money in the world.  That is life, but it's particularly the case in the UK with eth housing market and government and Council private contracts.  No one else can step up and take the investment gamble because they don't have the bank balance.  And it is corrupt, don't tell me it's not.

Maybe we need to get shot of the public sector entirely.

octatonic

Sambostar said:

You have no idea of hard work judging by the hair on your knees and also I don't have to work for you, because I can also pick and choose, you'll probably get some wide boy who charges four times the price and does work to a hundredth of the quality.

That said how the hell you coped with training yourself and then doing 15 years in IT is beyond the capabilities of my reasoning. 

It's like trying to rationalise the true infinity of space.  I could be a permanent resident in a mental institution by now if I chose that route.

Oi.

I did 3 hours of yard work and then 6 hours of guitar building today, sonny Jim.

Why are you obsessed with my knees?

Pervert!

I'll employ you to be my cellar gimp.

The hours are good but the work will.. er.. stretch you.

Sambostar

Ok, let's see your knob then.  Mine's worn out from all the callouses on my palms.

octatonic

Sambostar said:

Ok, let's see your knob then.  Mine's worn out from all the callouses on my palms.

I did mine with technological aids.

thomasross20

Hahaha so many laughs on this thread )

Tone71

So day 1, been to the gym and completed run 3 of week 3 on the C25k programme, no wanking yet.

Ro_S

Tone71 said:

So day 1, been to the gym and completed run 3 of week 3 on the C25k programme, no wanking yet.

It's not a weekday yet.

CabbageCat

octatonic said:

Sambostar said:

Ok, let's see your knob then.  Mine's worn out from all the callouses on my palms.

I did mine with technological aids.

You can see my house from there. Not far east from where the helmet meets the shaft.

Ro_S

octatonic said:

Sambostar said:

Ok, let's see your knob then.  Mine's worn out from all the callouses on my palms.

I did mine with technological aids.

have you considered becoming a freelance cartographer?

octatonic

CabbageCat said:

octatonic said:

Sambostar said:

Ok, let's see your knob then.  Mine's worn out from all the callouses on my palms.

I did mine with technological aids.

You can see my house from there. Not far east from where the helmet meets the shaft.

I'm fairly sure that this is the first time in history that these words have ever been arranged in that order.

Ro_S

is west street the prince albert piercing?

no jap eye?

CabbageCat

Ro_S said:

is west street the prince albert piercing?

no jap eye?

There is a pub in Brighton called the Prince Albert that is situated right in the middle of the helmet area. Google it. Spoooo(r)ky.

octatonic

CabbageCat said:

Ro_S said:

is west street the prince albert piercing?

no jap eye?

There is a pub in Brighton called the Prince Albert that is situated right in the middle of the helmet area. Google it. Spoooo(r)ky.

HAHAHA.

Awesome.