4k hdr tv, talk to me...

strumjoughlamps

our 50" LG smart is too big so on the hunt for a 40"... seen a Pana 4k HDR yesterday and i was pretty impressed and more importantly so was the good lady.. but pricey compared to non HDR.. so is it worth the extra?

tell me, tell me NOW  

paul_c2

HDR - Hard Disk Recorder?

paul_c2

ETA: Apparently its for "high dynamic range"  ....... shows how out of touch I am with technology!

Sporky

Repeat after me.

There is no content.

There is no content.

There is no content.

octatonic

*Plenty of content on Netflix & Amazon.

*About 4 weeks worth of binge watching.

Sporky

4K yes, but with HDR?

Hertz32

Yeah, Sporky said:

4K yes, but with HDR?

marco polo is 4k HDR on Netflix I believe... 

Sporky

Fair enough.

I may be slightly jaded by having customers insist on 4K60 at 4:4:4, 12-bit colour and HDR in an auditorium where people talk over Powerpoint slides.

monquixote

Playstation 4 supports HDR.

exocet

I have a 4k non HDR Samsung and a 5 year old 1080P Sony. 

Most of the time I prefer the picture quality on the Sony. 


There's not enough 4K content yet which means that most "everyday" content is interpolated from 1080p or less. This makes for a substandard experience in my view. 

In other words, hold off paying loads of cash now for latest 4K 

paul_c2

I might be showing myself as a bit out of touch with the latest technology again, but surely 4k is pretty reasonable and in fact some of the latest ZX81 games need 16k?

strumjoughlamps

Sporky said:

4K yes, but with HDR?

do you think HDR will take off? apparently the Beeb are already on bored with the tech yet it took 3 years to jump on the 4k wagon..

I am happy with normal tv and with moving from a too big 50" to a 40" I suspect I am going to be happier.. but with Virgin 4k box around the corner and all that is it better to move up from full HD

Sporky

I don't know.

A lot of the additional stuff that goes along with 4k standards (HDR, BT.2020 and deep colour, fer instance) look like they'll need OLED or another new display technology. There's also a definite whiff of "desperate to sell more tellies" about them.

The other tricky bit is that the bandwidth keeps rising. 1080p60, 8-bit without chroma subsampling is under 5Gbps. 4kUHD60, 10-bit, 4:2:0 is over 11Gbps, and if you want it without subsampling it's nearly 23Gbps.

That's a lot more work for the scalers and requires better cables and input and output chips.

As for the telly, get the one with the picture you like and don't worry too much about the Top Trumps stuff.

Axe_meister

To me HDR is far more impressive than 4K. Compare an HDR picture at 1080p with a 4K without and then a 4K with HDR. 4k with HDR is only marginally better but HDR at 1080p to me looks far better than 4K without.
A pity broadcasters and movie companies are not pushing 48fps. You get a sharper picture without the need for high resolution 

Gagaryn

I've got a 4k Sony TV, picture quality is outstanding. Mine isn't HDR though. Plenty of content on Amazon, Netflix and SkyQ with more to come.

Chalky

Recently bought a Samsung KS7500. I know nothing about TVs and it was twice the price of the similarly sized 6400 model. But the picture is truly stunning.

Bidley

The thing with 4k, is that it's only really noticeable (and impressive) on bigger screens (or smaller screens closer, like a PC monitor). Under 50" I don't think it's worth shelling out massively for 4k.

But saying that I just bought a 43" 4k LED TV, purely because I didn't want to be 'left behind'.

ennspek

I'm waiting for oled to drop in price. I have no desperate need at the moment.

stickyfiddle

Completely pointless to spend extra on any of it if you have normal-people eyes. 

Chalky

That's like arguing "Completely pointless to spend extra on any of it if you have normal-people fingers" when comparing a Squier to a Fender Custom Shop!

stickyfiddle

Chalky said:

That's like arguing "Completely pointless to spend extra on any of it if you have normal-people fingers" when comparing a Squier to a Fender Custom Shop!

Correct, and I'd argue exactly that point too! 

The difference being that finger will get better with practice, but eyes won't.